Andre: The MOQ employs the term ‘Dynamic Quality’ (or ‘unpatterned value’) to denote the continuing stimulus that the environment put upon us.
Marsha: Tell me about this environment? And who is the us? On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > Andre, > > Have I defined DQ? Where? > > > Marsha > > > On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Andre Broersen wrote: > >> Marsha to dmb: >> >> A major premise of the MoQ is Quality(Dynamic Quality/static quality), how >> can you really separate it in any meaningful way? Do you? If we check back >> through your posts, do discover you have never addressed Dynamic Quality? >> >> Andre: >> It seems to me that it is time you re-read LILA again Marsha. Starting, >> preferably at the beginning but with regard to your response, Chapter 9 will >> do as well. There you will read all about reasons for NOT addressing Quality. >> >> Also: "Whenever one talks about Dynamic Quality someone else can take >> whatever is said and make a static pattern out of it and the dialectically >> oppose that pattern".( Anthony's PhD, p68) >> >> Also: In the MOQ, then, reality (as a whole) is denoted by the term >> 'Quality' which Pirsig divides into Dynamic Quality and static quality. >> 'Quality' (with a capital 'Q')is used to denote reality (by which Pirsig >> regards as the totality of what exists) in addition to its traditional >> context as a term for excellence... while Dynamic Quality denotes the >> unconceptualised part of reality. Consequently, the term 'Dynamic Quality' >> is not meant to be a concept but only a referring term: >> >> It's important to keep all 'concepts' out of Dynamic Quality. Concepts are >> always static. Once they get into Dynamic Quality they'll overrun it and try >> to present it as some kind of concept itself. (Pirsig, 1997e).(ibid, p35) >> >> 'Anything that is undefined is outside metaphysics, since metaphysics can >> only function with defined terms.'(LILA, p110) >> >> Quality is the pre-intellectual cutting edge... . Not this, not that, not >> anything. >> >> And you want dmb to address Dynamic Quality? What is there to say? So that >> you, Marsh, can turn it into one of your many warped intellectual chess >> pieces? >> >> Read ZMM! >> >> And, just for the record, dmb has said many things about DQ and Mysticism. >> You need to take a better look at the archives. Some of his posts on DQ stem >> from 1998 and carry on in 2002,3,and 4. >> >> Seems like you need to do put your eyes through some exercises and shut your >> mouth. >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
