Hi Joe,
My conclusions are never as interesting as your explanations, so it feels right to ask questions. What do you know about averages? Marsha On Jul 19, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote: > Hi Marsha > > I know DQ by perception. Take the word 'ONE'. It has two meanings. 'One' > in metaphysics, and 'One' in mathematics. The 'One' of metaphysics stands > alone. It is the perception of indefinable individuality that enables > definition for speech along with the perception of an indefinable True and > Good. > > The 'One' of mathematics is definable, the beginning of the logical > perception of order, followed by 'Two' etc. > > I am sorry for the delay in responding, I was away from my computer. > Joe > > On 7/19/11 2:43 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Joe, >> >> Okay, you say you know DQ? Can you explain that >> knowing? Do you know DQ by inference, or do you >> know DQ by perception? Can you explain to me what >> you mean when you say "DQ is knowable?" And what >> do you know about it? >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote: >> >>> Hi Marsha, >>> >>> I don't like the adjective "subjective" modifying consciousness as the locus >>> of my awareness. There is no proper distinction between thought >>> (mathematics) and emotions (dynamic) in the adjective "subjective". It is >>> very confusing as it overwrites the evolutionary supposition for an >>> indefinable/definable basket of goodies. This leaves logic floundering. >>> Logic in the rest of the paragraph is diluted by "subjective". >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> On 7/19/11 11:48 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Joe, >>>> >>>> I have been puzzling over the experience of subjective >>>> consciousness - awareness. It is experience but I cannot >>>> observe it, like an eye cannot see itself. It seems not to >>>> be permanent and seems to control nothing. It witnesses. >>>> On investigation this is NOT an autonomous self. But >>>> it is experience and yet not an object of knowledge. >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi MarshaV and all, >>>>> >>>>> Practice makes perfect! DQ is knowable, but it is not definable. That >>>>> reminds me of emotions. E.G., Define Love! >>>>> >>>>> The habits that I purposefully develop, enable me to more or less find the >>>>> role that I must assume in each instance to maintain the dynamic reality >>>>> in >>>>> existence. I think such preparation is called work. Once I lose my way, >>>>> I >>>>> find myself repeating mechanically, for a whole lifetime, a set of >>>>> activities which keep me alive. I explain them to my neighbor who then >>>>> agrees that I am a good fellow, and I stay out of dynamic trouble because >>>>> it >>>>> is too hard to keep attention at such a trigger point for the decision >>>>> making necessary for evolution to heroic levels of behavior which heroes >>>>> have achieved down through history, e.g., Pirsig. >>>>> >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/18/11 6:20 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I do not consider DQ to be change. I see it as indeterminate, as >>>>>> unknowable, >>>>>> undefinable, and undividable, or as unpatterned. ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
