Hi Mark, How can you add, subract, multiply 1 by 0, and not divide 1 by 0? A failure in rigorous logic?
Joe On 8/28/11 5:36 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote: > Joe, Joe, Joe, > > How is your math these days? When an error is returned for an > equation like 2/0, it means "Return to sender", or "Earth to Joe", or > "What are you asking?". 2/0 asks "how many times does nothing fit > into two?". So tell me Joe, how many times can you fit nothing into > two if you are so fond of asking the question? This would be like > asking how many times does Integrity fit into Beautiful?. Don't you > think this would result in an error message from the calculator of > MoQ? > > Typically evolution is described by mathematics. I am referring to > the Evolution that is a theory in biology. It is all math based. You > know level of adaptation, predator/prey equations, life span. All > math! Darwin put a lot of species together in a linear (math) way. > But, you do not need to apologize because you are obviously talking > about a different sort of Evolution. If you explain what you mean by > Evolution, I can respond with a rational post along those lines. > > When I state that "Mathematics is a form of Metaphysics", I mean > simply this: Math is used to describe reality in the same way that MoQ > is used to describe reality. There is no difference and each is an > equally valid method for such a description. There is nothing more > real about mathematics than there is for MoQ, both are static > descriptions, and yes, they approach reality in different ways. > Perhaps you are of the mind that somehow Math is true whereas MoQ is > conjecture. If so, I would have to suggest that you stop bowing down > to the religion of Scientism and see it for what it is. This is not > to demean science; I am in love with science and make a good living > using it. Science describes reality like a blue print describes a > house. The blueprint is not the house, science is not reality. > > By way of metaphor, let me ask you this: Let's say you enter into a > very good restaurant and a waiter gives you a menu. You ask the > waiter what he would suggest for a meal. The waiter takes one of the > pages of the menu and puts salt on it and suggests you eat it. > Wouldn't you think that is kind of strange? Of course the menu is not > the food, just like a map of Ecuador is not the country. In the same > way, math is not reality, and physics is not either. They are all > descriptions, all analogies. MoQ is the analogy we are working with. > To make it work we need to use rhetoric and a great variety of > descriptions and definitions, yes, DEFINITIONS. Else-wise we will > just be acting silly. > > Cheers, > Mark > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Mark, >> >> The reply highlights the difference between language and math. Math as a >> precise language seems to ignore analogy and metaphor procreation. Division >> by 0 in math returns an error message, no creation. The question I was >> asking is can evolution be described in mathematics. If the answer is yes, >> my apologies. If, no, then metaphysics with analogy and metaphor is the >> proper discipline to discuss evolution beyond mathematical physics. >> >> I have not studied extensive mathematical levels, I am operating on the >> insight that metaphysics, and physics, do not share a common definition for >> the reality of evolution. "Math is a form of metaphysics." >> >> I'm no good at tic-tac-toe. No room for disagreement except a fistfight. >> >> On 8/24/11 4:31 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Joe the Undefined Wizard, >>> >>> Is this a trick question? Or are you playing tic-tac-toe? >>> >>> By the way, are you ignoring my last email to you or are you still >>> digesting it (burp)? >>> >>> Mark, the Undefined Satan. >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Mark and all, >>>> >>>> DQ/SQ. X/0. Are they both metaphysical formulations? >>>> >>>> On 8/23/11 9:42 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Math is a form of metaphysics. >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
