Hi Joe, The easiest way to understand this is to put the equation to words as I did for 2/0. Two times zero can be read as What do you have if you double nothing?
Math is a language. It has a shorthand notation for reasons of manipulation. Due to this simplification, it has a much more narrow application than words. For example, words can convey the sense of fear, whereas math cannot. So math is a very specialized language albeit limited to those things that abide by measurement. Mark On Aug 28, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > How can you add, subract, multiply 1 by 0, and not divide 1 by 0? A > failure in rigorous logic? > > Joe > > > On 8/28/11 5:36 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Joe, Joe, Joe, >> >> How is your math these days? When an error is returned for an >> equation like 2/0, it means "Return to sender", or "Earth to Joe", or >> "What are you asking?". 2/0 asks "how many times does nothing fit >> into two?". So tell me Joe, how many times can you fit nothing into >> two if you are so fond of asking the question? This would be like >> asking how many times does Integrity fit into Beautiful?. Don't you >> think this would result in an error message from the calculator of >> MoQ? >> >> Typically evolution is described by mathematics. I am referring to >> the Evolution that is a theory in biology. It is all math based. You >> know level of adaptation, predator/prey equations, life span. All >> math! Darwin put a lot of species together in a linear (math) way. >> But, you do not need to apologize because you are obviously talking >> about a different sort of Evolution. If you explain what you mean by >> Evolution, I can respond with a rational post along those lines. >> >> When I state that "Mathematics is a form of Metaphysics", I mean >> simply this: Math is used to describe reality in the same way that MoQ >> is used to describe reality. There is no difference and each is an >> equally valid method for such a description. There is nothing more >> real about mathematics than there is for MoQ, both are static >> descriptions, and yes, they approach reality in different ways. >> Perhaps you are of the mind that somehow Math is true whereas MoQ is >> conjecture. If so, I would have to suggest that you stop bowing down >> to the religion of Scientism and see it for what it is. This is not >> to demean science; I am in love with science and make a good living >> using it. Science describes reality like a blue print describes a >> house. The blueprint is not the house, science is not reality. >> >> By way of metaphor, let me ask you this: Let's say you enter into a >> very good restaurant and a waiter gives you a menu. You ask the >> waiter what he would suggest for a meal. The waiter takes one of the >> pages of the menu and puts salt on it and suggests you eat it. >> Wouldn't you think that is kind of strange? Of course the menu is not >> the food, just like a map of Ecuador is not the country. In the same >> way, math is not reality, and physics is not either. They are all >> descriptions, all analogies. MoQ is the analogy we are working with. >> To make it work we need to use rhetoric and a great variety of >> descriptions and definitions, yes, DEFINITIONS. Else-wise we will >> just be acting silly. >> >> Cheers, >> Mark >> >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Mark, >>> >>> The reply highlights the difference between language and math. Math as a >>> precise language seems to ignore analogy and metaphor procreation. Division >>> by 0 in math returns an error message, no creation. The question I was >>> asking is can evolution be described in mathematics. If the answer is yes, >>> my apologies. If, no, then metaphysics with analogy and metaphor is the >>> proper discipline to discuss evolution beyond mathematical physics. >>> >>> I have not studied extensive mathematical levels, I am operating on the >>> insight that metaphysics, and physics, do not share a common definition for >>> the reality of evolution. "Math is a form of metaphysics." >>> >>> I'm no good at tic-tac-toe. No room for disagreement except a fistfight. >>> >>> On 8/24/11 4:31 PM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Joe the Undefined Wizard, >>>> >>>> Is this a trick question? Or are you playing tic-tac-toe? >>>> >>>> By the way, are you ignoring my last email to you or are you still >>>> digesting it (burp)? >>>> >>>> Mark, the Undefined Satan. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi Mark and all, >>>>> >>>>> DQ/SQ. X/0. 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