On Sep 19, 2011, at 12:36 AM, Ham Priday wrote: > > So to answer your question, Marsha, I would say that subjective awareness -- > whether you call it consciousness, sensibility, or simply 'knowing' -- is > primary to existential reality. And it only occurs in the individuated state > of 'being-aware'. (I'm sure you will find corollaries of this concept in the > doctrines of Eastern mysticism.) >
Greetings Ham, Ontology is concerned with what is fundamentally real. I have stated before that I am a negative empiricist and a radical skeptic; for me the fundamental nature of reality is indeterminate. I-N-D-E-T-E-R-M-I-N-A-T-E. I am quite sure I have experienced this enough to be satisfied and comfortable with it as True. - MoQ's self: is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent and impermanent, static patterns of inorganic, biological, social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality (indeterminate). I find this, through experience (meditation,) to be as close to "subjective experience" as I can describe. And I also have discovered RMP's statement "To the extent that one's behavior is controlled by static patterns of quality it is without choice. But to the extent that one follows Dynamic Quality, which is undefinable, one's behavior is free." to be (t)rue through experience - mindfulness. I have never discovered a seat of control, only the st atic flow or the indeterminate or the present. To me this experience of mindfulness is "freedom" NOT any type of autonomous, intentional "willing." Existentialism: noun _Philosophy_ a philosophical attitude associated especially with Heidegger, Jaspers, Marcel, and Sartre, and opposed to rationalism and empiricism, that stresses the individual's unique position as aself-determining agent responsible for the authenticity of his orher choices. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/existentialism) I have found your book, but must ask: Why be biased by any intellectual static pattern, whether Existentialism or Essentialism? The MoQ, though, I find pointing to the Moon... ;-) And through mindfulness there is the experience of the present. I'm not sure why I need a "autonomous self" or "free-will" or meaning? Maybe you can explain this to me. I understand the MoQ to be ontologically indeterminate and epistemologically relative. When, where and why do I need a more static theory? Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
