Matt said to dmb:

An extrapoloation of the train analogy of ZMM might help to make plausible my 
contention that one cannot go around one's SQ glasses.  
This, then, dovetails with the train analogy: taking off the glasses would 
blind your eyes (bad death/chaos), just as leaping from the train would kill 
you.


I reject the premise that I've suggested that "we have limited access to DQ." 



dmb says:
All three lines come from one post. Apparently you reject the premise because 
you don't see how your contention suggests limited access to DQ. But what else 
could it mean? If one cannot go around one's SQ glasses, if taking them off 
means blindness and bad death, then your contention goes way beyond the 
suggestion.

As you are painting the picture, anything that's not static is portrayed as 
fiercely negative. Blindness and death and chaos don't appear in either 
analogy, as Pirsig originally presents them. It seems to me that you're not 
exploring the meaning of the analogy so much as strangely appropriating the 
imagery to make some other point. Frankly, additions like "jumping from the 
train" don't really make any sense. I mean, the train is an analogy of 
experience. What could it mean to jump off of experience? How would that be 
possible; what actual situation would that analogy refer to? Seems like 
made-up, convoluted nonsense to me.





                                          
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