Hi Joe, Well, as usual I am lost not knowing what kind of evolution you are discussing. However, it may be relevent to your thinking if I say that this "independence" is something that we have to learn to unlearn. This is at the heart of Zen. Therefore, I am claiming we should stop seeing everything as objects (for at least part of the time, anyway). Get off that "anxiety treadmill"! It is to much work to constantly keep ourselves separated, and we miss so much with that toil. Relax, let go, breathe out, just do the Nirvana. Cheers, Mark
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi David and All, > > Using "independent" as a metaphysical claim begins to cloud an evolutionary > hierarchy necessary for logic. Indefinable "Individual" seems a better > claim when discussing evolution. > > Joe > > > On 12/9/11 12:32 PM, "david buchanan" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> To say that objects are independent of us is a metaphysical claim, a claim >> involving two distinct ontological categories, us and the independent, >> objective reality that we hope to gain knowledge of. > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
