Mark, Of course, non-dualism is a concept. If we're discussing it, it is an analogue; it is analogues all the way down. Written concepts are all I have to work with here in this forum. And yet you gripe when I use them and gripe when I don't. If you are complaining of my poor ability to articulate these heady subjects, I can only acknowledged this disability. I do try my best. I think it is important to try.
Marsha Sent from my iPad On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:32 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Marsha, > I understand. I guess I find discussing MoQ interesting so please forgive my > constant questioning. Consider perhaps, that non-dualism is a concept and > does not exist outside of that. It is yet another way of encapsulating a way > we think. If something is difficult to discuss it means that the language > has not been created, by whomever. It is nothing more profound than that. > For communicating in complex ways is what we humans do. We should glorify in > that rather that demean it or push it aside as some aberration. > > Happy Holidays > > Sent laboriously from an iPhone, > Mark > > On Dec 18, 2011, at 1:32 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Mark, >> >> As I wrote yesterday, both Dynamic Quality and Sunyata, are nondualistic >> and, therefore, difficult to discuss. And I am but a mere student of both >> the MoQ and Buddhism. I use my own words when I think they might >> contribute something; otherwise, I consider opinions, yours and mine, like >> little puffy clouds in a big blue sky. ;-) If you want endless >> paraphrasing and fluff, there are others more willing to provide you with >> what you want. Rather than offer opinion, I would suggest a meditation >> practice. >> >> While I am a decent cook, when it comes to making cookies and tortes, I do >> use a recipe. I have one outstanding recipe for a Raspberry Marzipan Torte. >> December 22nd is Yule, the Winter Solstice, I will be making cookies today >> for Thursday's celebration. >> >> Goddess bles you. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 18, 2011, at 1:48 AM, 118 wrote: >> >>> Marsha, >>> You can keep saying this is so, but without an explanation as to why, it >>> seems like you are just walking around with a bullhorn. If somebody asks >>> you what you are cooking do you run to look for a quote to answer? Don't >>> you use your own words? That is all I am asking for. I am too far away to >>> bite you. >>> >>> God bless you. >>> >>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone, >>> Mark >>> >>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Mark, >>>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 11:54 AM, 118 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Marsha, how, specifically, does this relate to DQ, sq, and the levels of >>>>> MoQ? >>>> >>>> Marsha: >>>> It is my opinion that Quality, or DQ, corresponds to Buddhism's Sunyata, >>>> or Emptiness, and that relationship has been established in Anthony's PhD >>>> and the MoQ Textbook: >>>> >>>> "The Dynamic Quality viewpoint of the MOQ corresponds to the notion of >>>> sunyata or nothingness as understood by Nagarjuna (a Mahayana Buddhist >>>> philosopher) while the static quality viewpoint (sammuti-sacca) of the MOQ >>>> corresponds to sunyavada (i.e. the conditioned component or world of >>>> maya)." >>>> (McWatt, Anthony, 'A Critical Analysis of Robert Pirsig’s Metaphysics of >>>> Quality') >>>> >>>> So I find it worth considering what the Buddhist's have to say about >>>> Emptiness, and what this particular presentation says about the importance >>>> of realizing Emptiness, or Dynamic Quality. I find it a very thoughtful >>>> presentation. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 8:42 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Marsha, >>>>> Was it thoughtful in terms of your understanding of MoQ, or was it not >>>>> related to MoQ? What did you think about? That is, since it was >>>>> thoughtful, what thoughts did it produce? Or, is that a secret? >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:06 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Andre, >>>>>> >>>>>> I found the presentation on Emptiness very thoughtful. For what it's >>>>>> worth. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marsha >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
