Hi Marsha,
Yes, I am aware that such is the way you see.  But, what is your
point?  How does your vision help explain and further characterize the
Metaphysics of Quality?  If you truly see that what you present is an
analogy, then what lies below the analogy (besides another analogy).
I could say the world is cheese (as an analogy), and if asked, I could
say that the analogy I present is simply an analogy which is made up
of analogies.  Would this explain what I mean?  For what reason do you
like to use the concept of "patterns"?

How is it that your presentation of all as analogy on analogy work in
favor of MoQ?  I don't care if people of importance have said the
same.  Feel free to present any quote from Pirsig to answer this.
Also, if you could, please present your interpretation of such quote,
in that way I can understand why your specifically provide it.
Perhaps it is not your intention to support your belief system on MoQ
discuss; I have no opinion on that either negative or positive.  If
you choose not to answer these questions, I can respect that.

There you go, questions without criticism.   I cannot find anything to
criticize in what you present.

Thanks,
Mark

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:29 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I see patterns, of which words and definitions are an aspect, to all be 
> analogy for conventional-habitual experience.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 11:40 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marsha,
>> OK I see how you are using analogy.  I would use the word symbolism.  There, 
>> there was no complaint there, I must be improving my attitude.  Thanks for 
>> pointing it out.
>>
>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 11:05 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2011, at 1:19 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>> I am not griping, I am just talking.  Settle down, I am not out to get
>>>> you.  My only point was that non-duality is a word which we give the
>>>> idea that there is no "other".
>>>
>>> And I don't think you're out to get me, you just tend towards complaint.
>>>
>>>
>>>> An analogy is when we represent something with a similar thing.
>>>> Something that is hard to describe is presented as something that is
>>>> similar.
>>>
>>>
>>> I used 'nonduality' as similar to a type of experience.  But explanation, 
>>> too, with its use of signs and symbols (words) is the use of analogies all 
>>> the way down.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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