Hi, And why, Mark, I am so fond, at the end of the day, of remembering 'Not this, not that.'
Marsha Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:48 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Marsha, > What we know is what we create. If I do not know then I can not create. The > metaphysical split of Quality is fine with me as a presentation, it is a > personal relationship with what one sees as other. I am simply questioning > whether to see everything as patterns is a sufficient relationship. > > I can not "tell" you the way things "are", if that is what you are asking. I > can only present other doors for understanding. That is what my posts to you > are about. I have been trying to do so through rhetoric, but you will not be > aware of them until you open the doors. All I can provide are keys, what you > do with them is up to you. > > If I provide you with a dogmatic answer as to what really is, it is like > telling you how to ride a bike. It is nothing like actually riding a bike. > You are not "wrong" with your presentation, since it is what you create. We > create things with the tools and keys we pick up along the way. > > Regardless, have a happy Christmas. > > Sent laboriously from an iPhone, > Mark > > On Dec 24, 2011, at 1:32 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Mark, >> >> By the way, the definition of self that I present includes both static >> quality and Dynamic Quality. Are you proposing to convince me of something >> else besides Quality(Dynamic/static)? I would like you to explain what that >> might be. But, of course, you can confess that you do not know... >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Dec 23, 2011, at 11:30 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Marsha, >>> Yes I can dig it. You are much more than a collection of patterns. I >>> can't convince you of that, I know. It will take somebody near and dear to >>> you to do that. Ever tried a medium? >>> >>> All the best, you deserve it! >>> >>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone, >>> Mark >>> >>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 10:42 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Mark, >>>> >>>> I believe that the “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally >>>> co-dependent and impermanent, static patterns of inorganic, biological, >>>> social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality. >>>> And I really dig that DQ. You can believe that. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:19 AM, 118 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Marsha, the opposite of a pattern is you. Believe in yourself. >>>>> >>>>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone, >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:37 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Tuukka, >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, I do not understand what you are presenting. I do not >>>>>> have a familiarity with the terms as you are using them. I understand >>>>>> we all might find different aspects of the MoQ important, and may >>>>>> approach that interest from different points-of-view. Broadly, I tend >>>>>> to want to consider a pattern from a position of its opposite. That >>>>>> allows for the widest range of possibilities for individual instances >>>>>> and the most dynamic point-of-view. But that's just my opinion. >>>>>> Bottomline, for me, is that Reality = Experience(patterned >>>>>> experience/unpatterned experience). I think to categorize patterns >>>>>> into the four-level, evolutionary, hierarchical structure: inorganic, >>>>>> biological, social and intellectual is brilliant, rational, modern, and >>>>>> suggests a way to bridge Western science with Eastern wisdom. But this >>>>>> is only my own perspective. >>>>>> >>>>>> But that's enough of me repeating my point-of-view once again, to the >>>>>> point of ad nauseam some would say. Hopefully as you continue to >>>>>> present your point-of-view it wll become bstter understood. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
