Hi Mark, > I think that interpretations of MoQ could fall well within the range > of such "Eastern perspective". Since the world is becoming more > harmonious due to global internet and so forth, this mixing should > result in a combination of the two. Hopefully the best from each > world view will be adopted rather than the worst. Often things sink > to the lowest common denominator though.
Yeah, however what's best in the Western perspective? > I do not think the mystical view is where DQ and sq are "one and the > same". Within the mystical view there is also DQ and sq, as presented > in many of the mystical texts. The dynamic interplay between both > becomes much more apparent in a mystical view, imo. The mystical is > more closely related to "feelings" than actual intellect. These > feeling are encapsulated by archetypes (such as snakes and such). The > nature of these archetypes is well understood as symbolic, much more > than words on a page in the West are seen as symbolic. We have more > attachment to words than a mystic would. If we let go of this > attachment, we allow DQ to have a greater impact on our lives. One > can read a book about Argentina, or one can actually go visit. During > a visit, the words on the page are inconsequential, and direct > experience is more important. Sq does not show what lies behind the > sq, it can only point there. DQ provides the show. So sq is there just to point to DQ? > Any teaching should be written in a language that we understand, and > taught by someone we can relate to. This "language" must conform to > the reasoning that we have been educated during the first 12 years of > our lives (reasoning outside of that is considered "insane"), or the > education can take a long time. I believe that MoQ can deliver the > same result as the studying of Zen. I believe that Pirsig stated that > where he "got to" by his Quality approach, was similar to where Zen > students "get to" with their approach. > > It is important to have a goal in mind with all of these studies, imo. > Once cannot simply hope to get someplace by shear luck. If one has > the appropriate goal with MoQ, I see no reason why it cannot get one > there. Even reading Kant's "What is Enlightenment" can bring about > enlightenment if the goal for doing so is there. > > Hope my answers are not too spontaneous, but they come from the heart. > I welcome any thoughts of yours on these subjects. So we just need to have a goal of DQ and not sq? So if I just have a goal of DQ, then I need not worry about the patterns I am creating? -David. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
