Hi Marsha, What Pisig's is suggesting, IMO, is the presence of free will, which I equate with DQ. He also throws in a bit of Zen.
Sent laboriously from an iPhone, Mark On Mar 22, 2012, at 1:44 AM, MarshaV <val...@att.net> wrote: > > Again hello David & Mark, > > > On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:46 PM, David Harding <davidjhard...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> David: >>>> So we just need to have a goal of DQ and not sq? So if I just have a goal >>>> of >>>> DQ, then I need not worry about the patterns I am creating? >>> >>> Mark: >>> Not a goal of DQ, a goal of understanding. Why do you wish to learn >>> more about MoQ by participating in this forum? This is a serious >>> question, I just want to understand. >> >> David: >> Yes, to understand and in the process make myself a better person. > > Here's something I like to consider: > > "Causes and results are infinite in number and variety. Everything affects > everything. In this universe, when one thing changes, everything changes. > Hence the great power of man in changing the world by changing himself." > (Nisargadatta Maharaj) > > This is really no different than what Mr. Pirsig advises in ZAMM: > > "The place to improve the world is first in one's own heart and head and > hands, and then work outward from there. Other people can talk about how to > expand the destiny of mankind. I just want to talk about how to fix a > motorcycle. I think that what I have to say has more lasting value." > > > Marsha > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html