No, it was not.  We each march to the beat of a different drummer.

Sorry if it seemed that way.  Most of my comments are regarded in that
way.  At least for now.  All I can do is express my Quality Awareness.
 That is all Pirsig can do.

BTW, it is interesting to have a subject of "dark night" in this
forum.  It is kind of like having a forum on parachuting where not
many people have jumped out of an airplane, but still have a lot to
say about it.

If dark night was not DQ for you, what would you describe it as?

Or is this subject simply "theoretical"?

Mark

On 6/25/12, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> And, for example, your comment concerning "deaf ears" was not one of
> pretentious, disarming, condescension.  :-)
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 12:15 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marsha,
>> I do not disagree with you, I just have a different approach.  I have no
>> problem with your approach.  We just have a different sense of Quality.
>>
>> Carry on,
>> Mark
>>
>> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:13 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> This post seems like philosophical/psychological chum thrown overboard to
>>> see what it will attract.  I have no problem with you disagreeing with
>>> me, but often I cannot find a precise point of disagreement.  Is there a
>>> specific point you'd like to discuss?
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 11:55 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>> I appreciate the labels that you are giving to DQ.  I think I
>>>> understand
>>>> where you are coming from.  You present a kind of metaphysical
>>>> theology.
>>>> There is also another kind of metaphysics, that is one which traces
>>>> back
>>>> to ultimate principles.  I am' dealing with the latter approach.  It is
>>>> simply two different approaches.  I am sure that your approach brings
>>>> you
>>>> much fulfillment.
>>>>
>>>> This forum is about the metaphysics of Quality.  That is, it is meant
>>>> to
>>>> provide a description of Quality in metaphysical terms.  Certainly
>>>> unknowable can be one such description, but I am curious where you take
>>>> it
>>>> from there.  Is the first principle that it cannot be described?  If so,
>>>> we
>>>> are speaking of a metaphysics of the indescribable, which is more of a
>>>> Christian approach to reality.  I have no problem with this.
>>>>
>>>> Any metaphysics of Quality comes from one's personal relationship,
>>>> through
>>>> Quality, with existence.  I fully appreciate that your relationship
>>>> with
>>>> existence is one of unknowability.  This indeed can be one of wonder,
>>>> and
>>>> be very fulfilling, and I appreciate you candor in providing this to
>>>> me.
>>>> That IT is there but that we will never know it.  Thanks for that.  I
>>>> have
>>>> some more thoughts concerning my approach, which may fall on deaf ears.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 1:13 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> snip...
>
>
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