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nice naming , device literature , language only as data-transfer better attempt than importing math into language Adrie 2013/4/4 david buchanan <[email protected]> > Ant McWatt said: > ..I probably receive correspondence about the "new secret of the universe" > once every month and most of this [...] is arcane nonsense. However, > being a philosopher (rather than a philosophiologist) is - I think anyway - > about trying to keep an open, beginner's mind. So despite the tons of > bullshit that such a mind has to go through, at least there are the > occasional pearls of wisdom such as the MOQ. Moreover, reading Eddo's last > couple of posts, I do think there might be a little more than "psychotic > nonsense" to his ideas (i.e. his answer to Dave that he's using mathematics > for his philosophical system as it is the least culturally biased > "language" makes some sense; at least on face value). Anyway, it will be > interesting to see how this particular converstion pans out. > > > > dmb says: > Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between brilliant and crazy - > but usually it's pretty damn easy. > > As I see it, Pirsig accomplished what he did despite his "illness", not > because of it. He didn't see what he saw because he was insane but because > he did the work. He thought and thought and read and read for years and > then he was faced with a practical problem in his professional life and his > solution was scrutinized by the community in which he worked and then later > by the "officials" at the University of Chicago. Even as he was getting > himself thrown out, he thought "I'll just have to write my thesis in some > other way". And so he did. In one of the early interviews (NPR in 1974) he > describes ZAMM as "a dissertation embedded in a narrative". The narrative > is a powerful story of redemption to those who've suffered from mental > illness, wherein madness is a divine gift and not a curse or a burden - > but the dissertation stands or falls because it makes sense or it doesn't. > Sorry, but we don't get any extra points for the pain suffered in the > production of a thesis. It's good a > nd right or it's not so good and not so right. > > There is plenty of room to accommodate different tastes and sensibilities. > No reasonable person would be opposed to open-mindedness but we also need > to be discerning and sensitive to the qualities that separate good ideas > from confused or convoluted drivel. I'm not talking about formal rigor or > fancy rules. But can we not rule out the bat shit crazy, please? > > > Jeez. Is this a discussion group or a psychiatric hostipal? > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
