J-A, Interesting. I take these quotes, at the beginning and end of LILA, as a serious reminder not to get too hung up on the words, concepts, analogy, intellectual static patterns: the pointing finger. Keep your eyes on the prize: THE MOON. The moon is full tonight, don't miss it. :-).
Marsha On Apr 26, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> wrote: > Marsha > > That is why I call it an act of balance. A static pattern is an act of > balance to the undefined Quality. Balancing is an attempt to define quality > but nothing will last forever, therefore Quality will never be fully defined. > The better the longer it works. Chess rules for example is a high quality > static pattern because a lot of people like to play it. The periodic table is > another, because a lot of particles tend to behave that way and it tells us > how to handle the clay and make pottery that pays. > > Jan Anders > > > 26 apr 2013 kl. 10.49 skrev MarshaV: > >> >> >> First from the beginning of the book: >> >> RMP: >> "Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable in the sense that there >> is a knower and a known, but a metaphysics can be none of these things. A >> metaphysics must be divisible, definable and knowable, or there isn't any >> metaphysics. Since a metaphysics is essentially a kind of dialectical >> definition and since Quality is essentially outside definition, this means >> that a 'Metaphysics of Quality' is essentially a contradiction in terms, a >> logical absurdity. It would be almost like a mathematical definition of >> randomness. The more you try to say what randomness is the less random it >> becomes. Or 'zero,' or 'space' for that matter. Today these terms have >> almost nothing to do with 'nothing.' 'Zero' and 'space' are complex >> relationships of 'somethingness.' If he said anything about the scientific >> nature of mystic understanding, science might benefit but the actual mystic >> understanding would, if anything , be injured. If he really wanted to do >> Quality a favor he should just lea v > e >> it alone. >> >> "What made all this so formidable to Phaedrus was that he himself had >> insisted in his book that Quality cannot be defined. Yet here he was about >> to define it. Was this some kind of a sell-out? His mind went over this many >> times. >> >> "A part of it said, 'Don't do it. You'll get into nothing but trouble. >> You're just going to start up a thousand dumb arguments about something that >> was perfectly clear until you came along. You're going to make ten-thousand >> opponents and zero friends because the moment you open your mouth to say one >> thing about the nature of reality you automatically have a whole set of >> enemies who've already said reality is something else.'The trouble was, this >> was only one part of himself talking. There was another part that kept >> saying, 'Ahh, do it anyway. It's interesting.'" >> >> (RMP, 'LILA', Chapter 5) >> >> >> >> And then from the end of LILA, RMP writes: >> >> RMP: >> "Strictly speaking, the creation of any metaphysics is an immoral act since >> it's a lower form of evolution, intellect, trying to devour a higher mystic >> one. The same thing that's wrong with philosophology when it tries to >> control and devour philosophy is wrong with metaphysics when it tries to >> devour the world intellectually. It attempts to capture the Dynamic within a >> static pattern. But it never does. You never get it right. So why try? >> >> "It's like trying to construct a perfect unassailable chess game. No matter >> how smart you are you're never going to play a game that is 'right' for all >> people at all times, everywhere. Answers to ten questions led to a hundred >> more and answers to those led to a thousand more. Not only would he never >> get it right; the longer he worked on it the wronger it would probably get." >> >> (RMP, 'LILA', Chapter 32) >> >> >> >> >> Marsha >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
