Hi Joe,

Yes, unknowable in the sense that there is a known and knower, so not 
"conceptually knowable." How about known through direct perception?  I have 
stated that DQ can be directly experienced and known like one knows the tea is 
hot when one is drinking it.  Can this be true?  Problem is that I can directly 
perceive, in such a manner, that there is a coiled snake ahead of me in the 
road, only to find out later that such certainty was unfounded and what I 
experienced was merely a coiled rope.  On discovering that what I was seeing 
was, indeed, a coiled rope, what I do know with certainty was that it was NOT a 
coiled snake.  This is why I accept the idea that the best way to discover 
Truth is by discovering what is false. 
 
But having written the above, I will leave the issue open for further 
investigation.  Perhaps Steve Hagen's book will offer some insight on the 
subject of perceptions.   
 
 
Marsha 
 





On Apr 3, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:

> Hi MarshaV and All,
> 
> I have no sense of what you mean by "unknowable" DQ?  Unknowable is not the
> same as indefinable in DQ (indefinable) SQ (definable) metaphysics.
> "Unknowable" means a barrier to the contact of the faculty for knowledge.
> Indefinable accepts a direct contact in consciousness without language.
> "What was that?"  DQ!
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 4/2/13 5:31 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> DQ is "indivisible, undefinable & unknowable"; the term 'indivisible' 
>> pointing
>> to monism, non-dualistic: indeterminate.  
> 


 
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