Hi Dan and All,

A weakness in MOQ is the non-answer to the question <HOW DO WE KNOW?> as
having priority to <what do we know>.  DQ/SQ value metaphysics, accepts that
the indefinable can be experienced by the individual from a metaphysical
position. There has been no tweak to the theory of knowledge to explain
possible responses to the indefinable in consciousness/will.

I can only allude to logic for the existence of the indefinable since I
can't define it.  The theory of knowledge has to be tweaked for the
validation of a meaningful experience of indefinable/definable reality
DQ/SQ.  Logic cannot suggest the answer to existing indefinable DQ. MOQ is
required.

IMHO Joe 


On 4/23/13 9:40 PM, "Dan Glover" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Exactly. Yet at the same time, there are those here who insist we as
> individual subjects experience a world made up of objects. Even though
> Robert Pirsig is quite clear in saying the MOQ opposes any such
> notion--that the central reality of the MOQ isn't a subject or an
> object--these folk continue arguing in favor of subjects experiencing
> objective reality.


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