[David]
Yes you keep going back to things that have nothing to do with what I am
saying, has a robot hacked your account?
[Arlo]
Dan wondered if you're suffering some sort of meltdown. It seems that way to me
too. What you're doing is trying to skirt the valid (and precise) criticisms
about your ideas, why they evidence a misunderstanding of Pirsig (by multiple
people), and why they are inherently a SOM perspective ("SOM" used in the
correct way, by the way), by throwing sand in the bull's eyes (to you the ZMM
analogy). After weeks of being shown exactly where you SOM misunderstandings
are, you accuse everyone else of being "SOM" (I call this the Great Pee Wee
Maneuver, its used quite a bit out of desperation).
I can't say I'm surprised, Pirsig's ideas are rather revolutionary and the
single biggest mistake I've seen over the years is people trying to dress up
their SOM views with MOQ clothing. And while you seemed absolutely intent
before about overlaying an SOM (i.e., "patterns have to exist in experience
before you then go on to conceptualise them") perspective with Pirsig's
terminology, it seems that also has a psychological rabidness to it.
Its clear you've hit a "messiah point", where continuing to point out even your
most basic misunderstanding will only reinforce your idea that you alone
understand Pirsig and everyone else is "SOM" (psychological mirroring). So
there is little point in talking, like Dan said.
Good luck.
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