@ Adrie

Correctie:

Mine is 104/120 =  0,86666666666666667   inverse sinus is about 60 degrees
inverse sinus of 1 is 90 degrees so 90 - 60 is 30 degrees. The difference
between the stable 60 degrees fase shift state and the resonance rise 90
degrees fase shift state.

groeten Eddo


2013/4/9 Eddo Rats <[email protected]>

> @ Adrie
>
> These are all the potential resonance rise points although I think that in
> case of exitement you dont go beyond a fase shift 90 degrees. I think that
> on every static MOQ level there energy release effects take place.
>
> On a organic quality level i think that a sexual orgasm causes a discreet
> amount of energy loss at the point of 90 degrees fase shift.
>
> I would like to analyse data of men of different age groups. I would like
> to know their hartrate at rest and their hart rate when having an orgasm.
>
> Mine is 104/120 =  0,86666666666666667   inverse sinus is about 30 degrees
> The difference between the stable 60 degrees fase shift state and the
> resonance rise 90 degrees fase shift state.
>
> Coincedence??????????  only scientific data can tell!
>
>
> On a social level the same  kind of effects happen. I think that laughing
> is a sort of energy release of discreet amounts after each other
>
>
>
>
> 2013/4/8 ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]>
>
>> 180° 90° 0° 90° 180
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/8 Eddo Rats <[email protected]>
>>
>> > @Adrie
>> > Correction again1:
>> >
>> > I thought my phase shifted formula represented the mu state according to
>> > Pirsig but I am Not sure now
>> >
>> >  e^i(wt+pi/3) + e^-i(wt+pi/3) = coswt    (when cos wt = cos -wt)
>> > .
>> > This is the stable state, like a 3 phase motor or generator
>> >
>> > When you add energy(increasing rotation speed, exitement, increase
>> > heartrate) you come at a potential resonance rise point at phase +pi/2
>> or
>> > +90° This is Technally the same potential resonance rice point as at
>> phase
>> >  0pi or 2pi where you potentially come by energy and rotation speed
>> > reduction. than this point must represent wu and at 90 degrees must be
>> wei.
>> > than sixty degrees must be the middle stable way. I am just speculating
>> > here, other poeple can have other opinions.
>> >
>> > Greetings Eddo Rats  =4th post so enough for today. :D
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/4/8 Eddo Rats <[email protected]>
>> >
>> > > correction again; mu state: e^i(wt+pi/3) + e^-i(wt+pi/3) = coswt
>>  (when
>> > > cos wt = cos -wt)
>> > >
>> > > Just woke up this can't be right, the math in my head is graphical,
>> > that's
>> > > why these errors. I am an Engineer, not a Mathematiciam :D
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2013/4/7 Eddo Rats <[email protected]>
>> > >
>> > >> correction; basic resonance mu state: e^(iwt+pi/3) + e^-(iwt+pi/3) =
>> > >> coswt    (when cos wt = cos -wt)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> 2013/4/8 Eddo Rats <[email protected]>
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hi Adrie
>> > >>> Net terug van muziek sessie. Maak je geen zorgen over mijn
>> > >>> opslingeringen.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> You're worries about my state of resonance rise gives me the idea
>> that
>> > >>> you seem to understand the direction i want to go to. I am  taking
>> some
>> > >>> more time to write a propper answer to your mail.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> But for the time being i can tell you my findings of the mu state in
>> > the
>> > >>> wave equation.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> The resonance rise situation is dangerous because you are than
>> > >>> suceptable to energy absorbtion. I don't yet know what kind of
>> Energy
>> > but
>> > >>> it causes your sensation levels to rise above sustainable levels.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Famous mechanical example of resonance rise too! high: tecoma bridge
>> > >>> resonance rise! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Like this bridge can distort and break  a subconscious mind can
>> > >>> distort(psychosis) and break(schizofrenia, dissosiation disorders)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I believe i found the mu state in resonanance theory but have never
>> > been
>> > >>> able to communicate it with anyone.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> basic resonance rise equation:  e^iwt + e^-iwt = 2coswt
>> > >>>
>> > >>> basic resonance mu state: e^(iwt+pi/3) + e^(-iwt+pi/3) = coswt
>>  (when
>> > >>> cos wt = cos -wt)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Have fun!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> met vriendelijke groeten Eddo Rats
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> **
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2013/4/6 ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Eddo, read learrn and chill-out a bit.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Mu state . Zen and the art.......someone quoting Roberts
>> observations
>> > on
>> > >>>> wiki.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)*<
>> > >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Good but no good article.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Under “unasking the question” there is a snippet from Zen where
>> Robert
>> > >>>> makes a numer of big mistakes.The entire thinkingline of Robert
>> about
>> > >>>> circuits and on/off caracteristics is wrong.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Computercircuits are never in a Mu-state.Only on first sight they
>> seem
>> > >>>> to
>> > >>>> be awaiting for zero power or power on as in on/off.What Robert is
>> > >>>> depicting is a normal light circuit,a bulb, power on or of light
>> on or
>> > >>>> off
>> > >>>> , zero or not zero.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Integrated computer circuits have three different states, and zero
>> or
>> > >>>> non
>> > >>>> zero is not one of them.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> High impendance (!)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_impedance
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> You will be able to find digital electronics and analogue
>> electronics.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Now it is very easy to find where Robert goes wrong ,In digital
>> > >>>> electronics
>> > >>>> and computer circuits there are three different states, and they
>> are
>> > >>>> not Mu.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Robert tought that analogue electronics have the same properties of
>> > the
>> > >>>> digital ones
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Not being an electronic engineer,Robert will always miss the word
>> he
>> > was
>> > >>>> looking for
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> to make his entire point of view correct....”resonance rise” this
>> was
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>> term he missed.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> and to understand this
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance_(alternating-current_circuits)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Now my point for you Eddo
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> You are taking the term “resonance rise” out of the technical
>> > >>>> connotation
>> > >>>> and understand it as “Opslingering”but this connotation makes me
>> > realise
>> > >>>> where you want to point out with your wave equations, you are
>> trying
>> > to
>> > >>>> avoid your own mu states,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> but fail to find the words, like Pirsig.Pirsig avoided his own Mu
>> > >>>> states!
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> The trick is in the imaginary slow-motion of indiana jones his
>> whip,
>> > the
>> > >>>> resonance rise in de wave is reflecting back to the hand that is on
>> > the
>> > >>>> end
>> > >>>> of the whip,but the reflection moves up in amplitude depending on
>> the
>> > >>>> lenght of the whip and the induced amplitude in the first place.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> This kind of reasearch is what you should be performing
>> Eddo,instead
>> > of
>> > >>>> pissing of Mr Buchanan.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> en Blijf weg van “opslingering”!--resonance rise, en de stilte van
>> de
>> > >>>> Mu.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Study these things before you will become Mu only, there is enough
>> to
>> > >>>> grasp.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>  Groet , Adrie
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> 2013/4/6 Eddo Rats <[email protected]>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> > @dumb
>> > >>>> > Typical you to pick this part being my soft spot as someone with
>> a
>> > >>>> > psychiatric hystory being honest about it. You are not a
>> philosopher
>> > >>>> but a
>> > >>>> > moq philosophologist a politician and a narcistic priest that
>> wants
>> > >>>> me out
>> > >>>> > of his church. Good luck with your church. You win! :D  probably
>> > >>>> dropped
>> > >>>> > mathematics at highschool. This is that above the door
>> > >>>> > Plato<
>> http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Mathematicians/Plato.html
>> > >
>> > >>>> > inscribed
>> > >>>> > "Let no one who is not a geometer enter"
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > My advice to you, read ZMM where pirsig goes to chicago again and
>> > >>>> again and
>> > >>>> > again and again. Look in   the mirror and think very hard. To me
>> > >>>> you're a
>> > >>>> > lost case but never give up hope .
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > 2013/4/5 david buchanan <[email protected]>
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > > Eddo answered the million dollar question: What's the point?
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > ...Understanding this relationship became even more important
>> > during
>> > >>>> > > psychotic episodes when i noticed that the amounts of
>> sensation i
>> > >>>> had to
>> > >>>> > > deal with became so high that it had a distorting effect on the
>> > >>>> > personality
>> > >>>> > > i was (as a collection of concepts in my subconscious mind).
>> This
>> > >>>> made me
>> > >>>> > > even work harder to be able to understand this relationship.
>> Now
>> > >>>> after
>> > >>>> > > twenty years i thought of a way to understand this, and this
>> gives
>> > >>>> me
>> > >>>> > tools
>> > >>>> > > in my head to regulate myself when the sensations tend to
>> become
>> > to
>> > >>>> high.
>> > >>>> > > So "the point" to me has very personal value...
>> > >>>> > > P.S. Lets continue this discussion in the new thread i made
>> > "Quality
>> > >>>> > > defined!" because we are hijacking this thread which was
>> started
>> > >>>> with
>> > >>>> > > another purpose by somebody else.
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > dmb says:
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > > Sorry, but I'm not interested. Since Pirsig says (about a
>> thousand
>> > >>>> times)
>> > >>>> > > that Quality can't be defined and since your interested in
>> mostly
>> > >>>> > yourself,
>> > >>>> > > I don't think you're even talking about the MOQ. That's the
>> point
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>> > > purpose of this forum and I'm not qualified to help you
>> regulate
>> > >>>> your
>> > >>>> > > sensations anyway.
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
>> > >>>> > >
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