David, Dmb seems to like to label me a "James hater"; he is like a baby. I read James' biography and thought it quite interesting because he tried to synthesize the Eastern wisdom into a Western psychology/philosophy. But I prefer the Eastern point-of-view - always have. And neither am I anti-inellectual. That's just a label to discredit me by someone who's threatened; I am not the only one who has been blessed with such a childish strategy.
The mystic thing is not an appropriate metaphor. If you read 'The Master and His Emissary' by Iain McGilchrist he offers a better metaphor. I am merely someone who leans towards right-hemisphere mental processing. Marsha On May 24, 2013, at 10:55 AM, David Harding <[email protected]> wrote: > Marsha, > > It is precisely *because* you're such a mystic that the intellectual question > makes no sense to you. It's like asking a Victorian whose only interested in > social values what the biological value of the human body is. They didn't > have the slightest idea. They wouldn't understand the question. > > It is precisely *because* you're such a mystic that you don't like either/or > type logic or reasoning. > > It is precisely *because* you're such a mystic that you prerfer the wisdom of > the East. > > All that said - if you use logic you cannot help but create either/or type > divisions.. > > Example: Either you're an intellectual who likes James - or you're not an > intellectual.. (Marsha's logic). > > We cannot distinguish between two things without said logic. The ability to > create a division between two things is a beautiful thing. But also > Mystically degenerate. > > "To the intellect the process of defining Quality has a compulsive quality of > its own. It produces a certain excitement even though it leaves a hangover > afterward, like too many cigarettes, or a party that has lasted too long. Or > Lila last night. It isn't anything of lasting beauty; no joy forever. What > would you call it? Degeneracy, he guessed. Writing a metaphysics is, in the > strictest mystic sense, a degenerate activity. But the answer to all this, he > thought, was that a ruthless, doctrinaire avoidance of degeneracy is a > degeneracy of another sort. That's the degeneracy fanatics are made of. > Purity, identified, ceases to be purity. Objections to pollution are a form > of pollution." > > Intellectually and mystically degenerately yours, > > David. > >> David, >> >> On May 23, 2013, at 6:48 AM, David Harding <[email protected]> wrote: >> David Harding: >> And so I conclude - Marsha is a mystic and has no interest in intellectual >> quality or questions about whether something exists before we think about it. >> >> Marsha: >> So, David, EITHER I discuss with you 'whether something exists before we >> think about it' <a statement that makes no sense to me> to entitle myself as >> 'intellectual' OR I get labeled a mystic (an obvious charlatan)? That is >> your line of thinking? You're another Flatlander? Either/or? Yes/no? >> True/false? 0/1? A or not-A? You're another Aristotelian? Ah-choo! >> Ah-choo! Ah-choo! >> >> Goodness, it is no wonder I prefer the wisdom of the East: "the Tao is the >> groundless and boundless; it is the flowing, dynamic, yet unmoved amidst >> infinite change." >> >> If you want to discuss 'whether something exists before we think about it', >> present your views on the topic. If I have something to contribute maybe I >> will, or maybe I'll remain silent. But at the moment the topic makes no >> sense to me. >> >> 'If this is, that comes to be; from the arising of this, that arises; if >> this is not, that does not come to be; from the stopping of this, that is >> stopped'. >> - Buddha >> >> It's not what 'James says', but so what? >> >> Marsha > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
