"There are so many kinds of problem people like Rigel around, he thought, but 
the ones who go posing as moralists are the worst. Cost-free morals. Full of 
great ways for others to improve without any expense to themselves. There's an 
ego thing in there, too. They use the morals to make someone else look inferior 
and that way look better themselves. It doesn't matter what the moral code is - 
religious morals, political morals, racist morals, capitalist morals, feminist 
morals, hippie morals - they're all the same. The moral codes change but the 
meanness and the egotism stay the same."     (RMP, 'LILA', Chapter 7)




Ron said to Lucy:

Lets see, you exhibit feminist morals and hippie morals you use them to make 
others look inferior. You are full of great ways for others to improve without 
any expense to youself, a meanness and egotism fill your every post. And you 
reject intellectual morality.




dmb says:

Yup. This is just another cheap stunt, of course, because the issue of morality 
is totally unavoidable when discussing Pirsig's books. They are an inquiry into 
values and morals and in his vision the world is composed of nothing but 
values. 

The idea that intellectual values are beyond the range of some people is on 
display in the very structure of the book Marsha is quoting from - but 
moralistic people like Dick Rigel are motived by social level values. Lila, the 
character, is even worse and would likely be improved by adopting even the 
lowest forms of social values. I think Pirsig's moral hierarchy explains 
Marsha's hostility toward intellectual values. This is simply outside of her 
range. She just can't see it so that intellectual criticism is, for her, 
indistinguishable from mere meanness and egotism. 


"“ZMM was a rather inspirational book; it made everybody feel better in the 
end. LILA is a confrontational book; everybody in it dislikes everybody else; 
nobody understands anybody else; everybody’s fur is constantly getting rubbed 
the wrong way including the fur of many readers. Phaedrus has changed from a 
romantic mystery figure to a rather disagreeable intellectual. The setting is 
grotesque and depressing and so is the plot. So why, you may wonder, did I 
write it that way?”


“.... For some reason this book just wanted to be cross and depressing. I never 
knew why when I was writing it but I think now that maybe I subconsciously felt 
that the MOQ was way too important to be sugar-coated. Its primary concern is 
not what is popular – popularity is a social goal – its primary concern is 
truth. When you say two times two is four you should not have to say it in a 
way that is pleasing to an audience – it’s four no matter how crossly you say 
it. The feeling as I wrote LILA was, look, this is what I believe, take it or 
leave it, and it was just that kind of declaration all the way through and a 
lot of people have left it.”
 
“In ZMM the narrative tends to dominate the intellectual part of the book - the 
metaphysics - but in LILA the metaphysics clearly dominates the narrative. The 
three main characters are metaphysical chess-pieces. Lila embodies biological 
values, Richard Rigel embodies social values, and Phaedrus embodies 
intellectual values. The reason none of them get along is because their values 
are mismatched."


Intellectually speaking, she ain't got gumption. Not a drop of it. In fact, she 
hates it and wants to destroy it or undermine it whenever she can. She doesn't 
care about truth or philosophy and one can see this quite clearly not only in 
her attitudes but also in the incoherent jumbles of words she's constantly 
posting, the careless and contradictory use of philosophic terms and her 
constant distortions and dismissals of the textual evidence. As she reads it, a 
crass and crazy whore is the hero of this story. What does THAT tell you about 
Marsha?




                                          
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