Marsha said to Eddo:
Also, that cultural matrix can dissolve.  It may dissolve for only a few 
minutes.  The results may not be "insanity" but the cultural matrix never seems 
as substantial.  The entire matrix becomes like a mirage.  Authors like RMP, 
help prepare one for such experiences. Imho. 


dmb says:

Where Marsha says the cultural matrix can dissolve, never seems substantial and 
becomes like a mirage, Pirsig says "these moral bads and goods are not just 
'customs.' They are as real as rocks and trees" and those who live outside of 
this matrix are insane.


Marsha's view does NOT reflect the MOQ. It's just vacuous nihilism. It's a view 
that Pirsig describes as "really stupid".


"What the Metaphysics of Quality concludes is that the old Puritan and 
Victorian social codes should not be followed blindly, but should not be 
attacked blindly either. They should be dusted off and re-examined, fairly and 
impartially, to see what they were trying to accomplish and what they actually 
did accomplish toward building a stronger society. We must understand that when 
a society undermines intellectual freedom for its own purposes it is absolutely 
morally bad, but when it represses biological freedom for its own purposes it 
is absolutely morally good. These moral bads and goods are not just 'customs.' 
They are as real as rocks and trees. The destructive sympathy by intellectuals 
toward lawlessness in the sixties and since is derived, no doubt, from what is 
perceived to be a common enemy, the social system. But the Metaphysics of 
Quality concludes that this sympathy was really stupid. The decades since the 
sixties have borne this out."


                                          
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