According to the MOQ, we're submerged in culture. Intellectual patterns, or meaning, arises from social values, or context. If we used binary code in a cultural setting then the above represents writing. To me, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of 1s and 0s.
Taking a book and making a work of art from it changes the intellectual value, wouldn't you say? It's sort of like a kidnapper cutting letters from ads and pasting them together to form a ransom note. The meaning is there but it has been changed from its original intent. On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:58 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > 01010110 01100101 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101001 01110011 > 01100001 01110000 01110000 01101111 01101001 01101110 01110100 01100101 > 01100100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01111001 > 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01101110 > 01101111 01110100 00100000 01100011 01100001 01110000 01110100 01101001 > 01110110 01100001 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01100010 01111001 > 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01000111 01100101 01110010 > 01101101 01100001 01101110 00100000 01101100 01100001 01101110 01100111 > 01110101 01100001 01100111 01100101 00101110 > > Yes, I was aware she was a student of William James. That makes a nice > story, doesn't it? > > I was more wondering what affect words, sentences, paragraphs, &etc. have > on human beings if they do not have access to their meaning like in a > collage. Will they try to discover the meaning? Does the above represent > writing? > > > Marsha > > > > > > On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > She seems like an interesting woman who led a full life though her > writing > > style is not quite my cup of tea. Doing a bit of research I see William > > James was one of her teachers and mentors. He encouraged her writings > > though apparently they were never quite on the same page, so to speak. > > Thank you for the reference. > > > > I would say words always have meaning, otherwise they're gibberish. Now, > > whether or not they convey the intended meaning is questionable if taken > > out of context. > > > > Also, I think the MOQ would say we are continually defining not only > words > > but all static patterns that arise from experience. You may want to > define > > 'writing.' I for one am not particularly captivated by the German > language > > though I do from time to time use Google Translator to discover what > > someone is trying to say to me. > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 8:20 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Greetings, > >> > >> "Sound sight and sense around sound by sight with sense around by with > >> sound sight sense will apologise truthfully. Com to allowing. > >> > >> "As often as not as often as not they as often as not were to be going > >> away. > >> > >> "A plan that is made and causes it to be that if they were after all > >> not behaving as if they could by an indifference to an extravagantly > >> prepared advantage which is by nearly their importance advising them to > be > >> more than as well as if by the time that it is to be comparatively > obtained > >> in an intentional adjustment of the renewal and bestowal of whether by > the > >> chance of their adjoining they may be colliding without an impatience > which > >> can be changed to an addition of their bestowal which is in a way might > it > >> be shadowed as because of this which is an objection to their having it > can > >> be an interval of it just the same which is preferably not only a reason > >> because they may be that is if it could be to notice that having looked > to > >> see. It should never be an exact copy. What is the difference between > >> starting and starting when may they like it looking part of the time as > if > >> very much their hope that they will be without in the meantime > furnishing > >> it as an advantage which it > >> is to the more delighted explanation of their being very ready to send > >> very many apples." > >> (Stein, Gertrude, 'How to Write') > >> > >> > >> Marsha: > >> Very dynamic, don't you think? Fitting of the code of art? Too > dynamic? > >> This is from the chapter titled 'A Vocabulary of Thinking'. Ms. Stein > was > >> a very clever intellectual. Some would say far far more clever than > Joyce, > >> but, alas, a woman. Her writing was extremely influential on the Beat > >> writers. I am wondering how these torn pages of words will be > experienced > >> in a collage. Do words, without meaning, affect the viewer? Are we > human > >> beings so captivated by writing that we will be compelled to try to > >> discover a meaning? > >> > >> > >> Marsha > >> > >> > >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- http://www.danglover.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
