On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:31 AM, MarshaV <val...@att.net> wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > > > On Dec 27, 2013, at 11:54 PM, Dan Glover <daneglo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > According to the MOQ, we're submerged in culture. > > Yes. > > > > Intellectual patterns, or meaning, arises from social values, or context. > > Are you equating 'meaning' and intellectual patterns? >
Definition, meaning, ideas... they all seem to correlate to intellectual patterns, wouldn't you say? > > > > If we used binary code in a cultural setting then the above [binary > code] represents writing. To me, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of 1s and > 0s. > > Is that your story and you're sticking to it? It isn't a story. > Those ones and zeros have meaning for me because they are a translation > of a particular sentence I used as input into a binary translator. Groups > of any sequence of eight 1s and 0s _suggest_ meaning to me, even if I don't > know that meaning, because I have a distant recollection (experience) of > their having meaning. That's my pattern (social or intellectual) and I am > hypothetically sticking to it. > The movement of birds and ants _suggest_ meaning to me too even though I don't know that meaning. You seem to be arguing for nothing more than the sake of argument. > > > > Taking a book and making a work of art from it changes the intellectual > value, wouldn't you say? > > Yes the context has changed, but I am not sure how you are understanding > "intellectual value"? Gosh, I'm not sure computers still use those ones & > zeros as on & off switches, but I do know that this particular series can > be translated into a sentence with meaning. > Isn't that what I said? > > > > It's sort of like a kidnapper cutting letters from ads and pasting them > together to form a ransom note. The meaning is there but it has been > changed from its original intent. > > From my particular point-of-view, the context is always changing, > sometimes changing more radically than others. It's all grist for the art > mill. > Sorry but this makes no sense at all. Obviously having a discussion here is a waste of time. Goodbye. > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:58 AM, MarshaV <val...@att.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi Dan, > >> > >> 01010110 01100101 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101001 01110011 > >> 01100001 01110000 01110000 01101111 01101001 01101110 01110100 01100101 > >> 01100100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01111001 > >> 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01101110 > >> 01101111 01110100 00100000 01100011 01100001 01110000 01110100 01101001 > >> 01110110 01100001 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01100010 01111001 > >> 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01000111 01100101 01110010 > >> 01101101 01100001 01101110 00100000 01101100 01100001 01101110 01100111 > >> 01110101 01100001 01100111 01100101 00101110 > >> > >> Yes, I was aware she was a student of William James. That makes a nice > >> story, doesn't it? > >> > >> I was more wondering what affect words, sentences, paragraphs, &etc. > have > >> on human beings if they do not have access to their meaning like in a > >> collage. Will they try to discover the meaning? Does the above > represent > >> writing? > >> > >> > >> Marsha > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- http://www.danglover.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
