Goodbye Dan.
> On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:31 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Dan, >> >> >>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 11:54 PM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> According to the MOQ, we're submerged in culture. >> >> Yes. >> >> >>> Intellectual patterns, or meaning, arises from social values, or context. >> >> Are you equating 'meaning' and intellectual patterns? > > Definition, meaning, ideas... they all seem to correlate to intellectual > patterns, wouldn't you say? > > >> >> >>> If we used binary code in a cultural setting then the above [binary >> code] represents writing. To me, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of 1s and >> 0s. >> >> Is that your story and you're sticking to it? > > > It isn't a story. > > >> Those ones and zeros have meaning for me because they are a translation >> of a particular sentence I used as input into a binary translator. Groups >> of any sequence of eight 1s and 0s _suggest_ meaning to me, even if I don't >> know that meaning, because I have a distant recollection (experience) of >> their having meaning. That's my pattern (social or intellectual) and I am >> hypothetically sticking to it. > > The movement of birds and ants _suggest_ meaning to me too even though I > don't know that meaning. You seem to be arguing for nothing more than the > sake of argument. > > >> >> >>> Taking a book and making a work of art from it changes the intellectual >> value, wouldn't you say? >> >> Yes the context has changed, but I am not sure how you are understanding >> "intellectual value"? Gosh, I'm not sure computers still use those ones & >> zeros as on & off switches, but I do know that this particular series can >> be translated into a sentence with meaning. > > Isn't that what I said? > > >> >> >>> It's sort of like a kidnapper cutting letters from ads and pasting them >> together to form a ransom note. The meaning is there but it has been >> changed from its original intent. >> >> From my particular point-of-view, the context is always changing, >> sometimes changing more radically than others. It's all grist for the art >> mill. > > Sorry but this makes no sense at all. Obviously having a discussion here is > a waste of time. Goodbye. > > >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:58 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Dan, >>>> >>>> 01010110 01100101 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101001 01110011 >>>> 01100001 01110000 01110000 01101111 01101001 01101110 01110100 01100101 >>>> 01100100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01111001 >>>> 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01101110 >>>> 01101111 01110100 00100000 01100011 01100001 01110000 01110100 01101001 >>>> 01110110 01100001 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01100010 01111001 >>>> 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01000111 01100101 01110010 >>>> 01101101 01100001 01101110 00100000 01101100 01100001 01101110 01100111 >>>> 01110101 01100001 01100111 01100101 00101110 >>>> >>>> Yes, I was aware she was a student of William James. That makes a nice >>>> story, doesn't it? >>>> >>>> I was more wondering what affect words, sentences, paragraphs, &etc. >> have >>>> on human beings if they do not have access to their meaning like in a >>>> collage. Will they try to discover the meaning? Does the above >> represent >>>> writing? >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > -- > http://www.danglover.com > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
