> On May 15, 2014, at 5:33 PM, david <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> Ian said:
> Not non-intellectual or anti-intellectual, but the idea of intellectual but
> more so, more evolved, more progressive kind of intellectual. (Forget any
> previous coining of post-intelletual-ism, I'd like to avoid the errors of
> history, not re-inforce them.)
> How about it. An intellect informed by pre-intelletual radical-empirical
> Pirsigian-quality is surely "better" than one that is not. Like GOF
> intellect, only better.
>
>
>
> dmb says:
> In the MOQ "an intellect informed by pre-intelletual radical-empirical
> Pirsigian-quality" is known as "intellect". And yes, the MOQ offers this
> because it's better than one that is not "like GOF intellect," which is
> called SOM or amoral scientific objectivity.
> This is what Arlo was complaining about with respect to John's comments about
> the relations between art and intellect. I mean, you have briefly described
> the MOQ's solution, and opposed it to the MOQ's enemy, as if YOU were
> supposed to be offering some new proposal, some new idea. If Pirsig already
> calls it intellect in the MOQ, then the term "post-intellectual" implies that
> you want to go beyond Pirsig's solution, beyond the MOQ's intellect. Unless
> you're still stuck in the problem space with John. You see the problem? That
> would be refreshing. Unique, even.
>
>
> Ron:
I have to agree, I'm not sure what Ian's point was, I'm not sure he does
either. He just seems not to like how the dialog is going. The only explanation
seems to be that he just doesn't like us very much.
I don't like you, don't post on my thread. Is what he should just say.
Closer to the truth? More to the point?
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