Ron,

Jc prev:

>
> > The MoQ intellect, includes the heart - ethical imperative toward the
> > good.  Absolutely, I agree.
> >
> Ron:
> Then why argue over the problem space as if that is what is being
> supported in Pirsigs work?
>

Jc:  Because the problem space is where we all live?  And unless we can
apply Pirsig's work directly to problems, then it's just another book in a
world full of books.

>>> Page 309 -    The intellectuals of the 60's sympathized with lawlessness
>>> because they perceived social codes as the common enemy.  "But the
>>> Metaphysics of Quality concludes that this sympathy was really stupid."
>>>
>>> Ron:
>> Stupid is a good word for it.
>

> > JC:
> > Sadly, yes.  Often the case when a people are set free, they don't know
> how
> > to responsibly hand their freedom at first.  But its still better to be
> > free.
> >
> Ron:
> What good is freedom when you are too stupid to make good quality
> intellectual decisions? Is being a slave to biological patterns truly
> leading a life that's free?
>
>
>

I'd settle for good social decisions.  Quality intellect is rare.

John
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