>> >> >>> On May 23, 2014, at 12:33 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> >>> Jc prev: >>> >>>> >>>>> The MoQ intellect, includes the heart - ethical imperative toward the >>>>> good. Absolutely, I agree. >>>> Ron: >>>> Then why argue over the problem space as if that is what is being >>>> supported in Pirsigs work? >>> >>> Jc: Because the problem space is where we all live? And unless we can >>> apply Pirsig's work directly to problems, then it's just another book in >> a >>> world full of books.
Ron replies : The problem space is where American culture lives, but I would not say that is where the contributors here at the MD live meaning the mental space deemed the "problem" So attacking them as part of the problem does not support your contention. >>> >>>>>> Page 309 - The intellectuals of the 60's sympathized with >> lawlessness >>>>>> because they perceived social codes as the common enemy. "But the >>>>>> Metaphysics of Quality concludes that this sympathy was really >> stupid." >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron: >>>>> Stupid is a good word for it. >>> >>>>> JC: >>>>> Sadly, yes. Often the case when a people are set free, they don't know >>>> how >>>>> to responsibly hand their freedom at first. But its still better to be >>>>> free. >>>> Ron: >>>> What good is freedom when you are too stupid to make good quality >>>> intellectual decisions? Is being a slave to biological patterns truly >>>> leading a life that's free? >>> John Carl: >>> I'd settle for good social decisions. Quality intellect is rare. >>> Ron: That sounds kinda tough when you have a gripe against authority too. You probably wouldn't settle for good Social decisions because you rebel against both. Again is a free man truly free when a slave to biological patterns? >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > -- > "finite players > play within boundaries. > Infinite players > play *with* boundaries." > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
