Ron, I'll be there! I've been quiet over the weekend, but Monday I'll have more time to read and respond.
John On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > I have started a new thread and I am working on an essay on just this > topic. Hope you join in on the discussion, should prove interesting. > -Ron > > > > On May 23, 2014, at 12:33 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ron, > > > > > > Jc prev: > > > >> > >>> The MoQ intellect, includes the heart - ethical imperative toward the > >>> good. Absolutely, I agree. > >> Ron: > >> Then why argue over the problem space as if that is what is being > >> supported in Pirsigs work? > > > > Jc: Because the problem space is where we all live? And unless we can > > apply Pirsig's work directly to problems, then it's just another book in > a > > world full of books. > > > >>>> Page 309 - The intellectuals of the 60's sympathized with > lawlessness > >>>> because they perceived social codes as the common enemy. "But the > >>>> Metaphysics of Quality concludes that this sympathy was really > stupid." > >>>> > >>>> Ron: > >>> Stupid is a good word for it. > > > >>> JC: > >>> Sadly, yes. Often the case when a people are set free, they don't know > >> how > >>> to responsibly hand their freedom at first. But its still better to be > >>> free. > >> Ron: > >> What good is freedom when you are too stupid to make good quality > >> intellectual decisions? Is being a slave to biological patterns truly > >> leading a life that's free? > > > > I'd settle for good social decisions. Quality intellect is rare. > > > > John > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- "finite players play within boundaries. Infinite players play *with* boundaries." Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
