[Krimel] Stripped of all the tap dancing, the issue is that the idea of evolution operating randomly on the basis of "shit happening" is scary. People would rather believe anything else and they do. They want meaning. They want a plan. They want direction. They want someone in charge. They will grasp at any straw to clutch onto some kind of purpose or head dude in charge. In the old days they would even sacrifice their children to appeal to some higher power.
Platt, Ham even Pirsig it seem have this problem. [Krimel] The problem is that fitness or betterness can really only be determined after the fact. To then claim they are the driving force is naïve. Ian replies No, the naive thing is the interpretation of the idea of "driving force" as something pre-determined and simplisticly causal. Whereas as Platt (really !) points out there are strange (emergent) loops afoot. Meta-bettereness, maybe, a tendency to approach betterness, for fitnes to emerge, without any pre-conception of what is better. Fit is a two-way process. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
