[Ron] 
> To all, I do make an effort not to use sarcasm or abuse, I would
appreciate the same from all of you.
[Craig]
I agree with refraining from abuse.  However, I appreciate others'
sarcasm since it is an admission by them that they have lost the
"argument".  You'll never catch me using sarcasm.

[Ron]
Craig, I tend to take people at face value, in this formatt it is
difficult to determine
who is being straight and who is yanking your chain. It's hard enough to
get an idea across
And to have to sift through stuff like that just mires things even more.
Personally I have little patience for those who play the "I'm kidding
yet I'm serious"
Game. It strikes me as chicken sh#t. If you have a problem with a
comment, I do not
Understand why it can't be honostly questioned. Encasing aggression
within niceties
Is just poor manners IMO. It's like I'm insulting you if you're smart
enough to understand
that I am. It sets a precedent for continued abuse. I'm setting a
precedent that I will not
tolerate it. I have more respect for someone who just will lay it out
strait and is able to
take what they give, I try to avoid this because when I play, I play
rough. I'm working
on that though, and I understand that this is not acceptable...It is
difficult for me to
overcome. I have taken a lot of abuse in my life and when I get the idea
someone thinks 
they can hand me a pile of garbage with a smile on their face and get
one over on me 
it sets me off. It's a trigger and I try to avoid it when I can while I
work on retraining
myself to have that situation trigger a more positive response. I like
fun as much as the 
next guy but, I really do not know you guys very well yet.
thanks

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