> [Ron]
> ...I began to really look
> At what terming something moral or better is. Later,
> after this post, I found that pirsig defines
> Betterness or good as "Good is conformity to an
> established pattern of fixed values and value
objects."
> Lila 119. this cleared up a lot for me, however I
> get the feeling that some here have the idea
> That Pirsig terms moral in the conventional sense
> and use it to further the concept of conventional
> Ideas of right and wrong and of morality, which had
> me alittle uncomfortable.
As I mentioned earlier, the inorganic level has
endured for billions of years, how so long has this
static pattern lasted? I would venture to say due to
this level being near and dear to dynamic quality.
Then biological level 'stuff' has endured for millions
(on this planet), and how? Near and dear to dq -
biological evolution. Now of social level 'stuff', it
has not nearly lasted as long, and different kinds of
societies still exist, from bands to kings to
presidents. What of the intellectual level? Well,
the freedom here, at times, seems to have no
boundaries, which I would say few static latches have
been made to inch this static level into any enduring,
lasting Way. The lasting and endurance of these
levels are made in comparison to each other, and time
and relative frequency are factored in.
Ron, I like your positioning of morals with
values with static endurance to be links in what is
good, as opposed to right and wrong. So what staticly
endures has to do with dynamic linkage, thus, static
patterns upon a certain level further refresh
themselves and endure. It's tough to comprehend, as I
write this now, how an oxygen molecule can be closer
to dynamic quality than say the toaster oven, but then
again notice which one is still around in abundance.
What could possible be considered refreshing,
creative, and dynamic about an oxygen molecule's
experience?
woods,
SA
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