Krim meta-phor means change+carry/transfer in Greek you know.
DM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krimel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Pirsig and TITs > DM, > > But if on one side we have TiTs and on the other our experience of TiTs > don't we have a gap. It's a bit like Bohr saying that science isn't about > nature it is about what we can say about nature. It would seem that a > proper > understanding of things would have to include both what we can say about > nature and what we can say about our ability to say things about nature. > > One of the problems we have in dealing with QM is that it is outside of > what > we are equipped by nature to understand. We have neither the sensory > apparatus nor the experience to deal with it. We are left trying to > express > it in terms we can understand, rather like trying to figure out how to > draw > a cube on a piece of paper only harder. > > Krimel > > ------------------------- > > Krim > > You need to have the subject on one side > and things in themselves on the other to see > formalise the gap over which you need to > find a sure path. No gap no skepticism. > Heidegger and Wittgenstein addressed SO dualism > because they wanted to get over skepticism. > > DM > > --------------------------- >>> [Krimel] >>> You only get SOM when you relax your skepticism long enough to allow >>> objects >>> into the picture. >> >> DM: I'd suggest, you only get skeptism if you adopt SOM. >> >> [Krimel] >> I am not following you on this one. Surely you are not saying that SOM is >> the only world view that invites critical thinking. My point was that >> solipsism is a form of extreme skepticism. >> > > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
