At 10:18 AM 7/2/2007, you wrote: >Quoting MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > At 07:10 AM 7/2/2007, Platt wrote: > > > > > > > > >"Of the twenty-two civilizations that have appeared in history, > > > > >nineteen of them > > > > >collapsed when they reached the moral state the United > States is in now" > > > > > > > > Platt, > > > > > > > > If it collapses, it collapses. > > > > > > > > "The place to improve the world is first in one's own heart and head > > > > and hands, and then work outward from there. Other people can talk > > > > about how to expand the destiny of mankind. I just want to talk about > > > > how to fix a motorcycle. I think that what I have to say has more > > > > lasting value." (ZMM, Chapter 25) > > > > > > > > Mankind is beyond the perspective of the West, don't you think? > > > > > > > > Marsha > > > > > >Hi Marsha: > > > > > >Mankind is beyond anyone's perspective don't you think? As for > > >Pirsig's view on how to improve the world, he is absolutely right IMO. > > >Save us from those who would interfere in our lives for "the public good." > > > > > >Platt > > > > > > > Hi Platt, > > > > Yes, you're right, it is beyond anyone's perspective. Pirsig is > > right, one should cultivate the "good" in themselves. And I think > > the Buddhas are also right. As long as there are sentient beings > > suffering, there will never be peace and contentment within. > > > > Marsha > >Hi Marsha, > >"If you eliminate suffering from this world you eliminate life. There's no >evolution. Those species that don't suffer don't survive. Suffering is the >negative face of the Quality that drives the whole process." (Lila, 29) > >What do you think? Is suffering necessary? > >Platt
There is suffering, and there is SUFFERING. Does it not bother you that there are so many starving? Marsha moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
