Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi Platt, 
> 
> Seems that this "decline in quality" has arises as a product of increased 
> personal
> freedoms, and if you want to engineer society to make it different from the 
> one
> that freely emerges, then you have to do that with social controls.  
> I dont understand how from a pragmatic standpoint one can criticise "marxist
> morality" and at the same time criticise the degeneracy of emergent "free"
> culture.
> 
> Do I misunderstand you?

I disagree with your assertion that we live in an "emergent free culture." It is
bound on all sides by rules, regulations and taxes. About 30 percent of personal
income is frittered away on national, state and local taxes -- hardly what you
call a "free society." Political correctness stifles free speech, and the 
liberal
Marxist view dominates the media, the academy and the arts. It is these Marxist
inspired restrictions on personal freedom I find degenerate.

The deeper issue that you raise is the age old one of freedom vs. order. Pirsig
provided us with a new view of this issue with his split of Dynamic Quality
(freedom) vs. static Quality (order). As he wrote, "Both are needed." 

Platt
   


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