Hey, SA --

[Ham, to Joe on 7/16]:
> Metaphysics, as you surely know, is the study of
> reality beyond the physical world.

[SA to Ham on 7/17]:
> "beyond"  The always ? I have with Ham's usage
> and definition.

By "beyond" I mean, "over and above", "transcending", "not limited by" the 
physical.
I quote from Wikipedia:

"Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy concerned with explaining the 
ultimate nature of reality, being, and the world.  Its name derives from the 
Greek words μετά (metá) (meaning "after") and φυσικά (physiká) (meaning 
"after talking about physics"), "physics" referring to those works on matter 
by Aristotle in antiquity.  Metaphysics addresses questions that have 
existed for as long as the human race - many still with no definitive 
answer.  Examples are:

    What is the meaning of life?
    What is the nature of reality?
    What is mankind's place in the universe?
    Does the world exist outside the mind?
    What is the nature of objects, events, places?

Webster's Unabridged adds this paragraph:

"The notion that metaphysics is concerned with that which transcends 
experience led to the positivistic denial of the possibility of metaphysical 
knowledge, while the critical spirit and logical point of view of Kant 
cuased metaphysics to be identified with the logic by Hegel. Schopenhauer 
and later writers have insisted that metaphysics is concerned with analysis 
of experience in the broad sense, and this empirical view is largely held by 
modern writers."

Does this help to reconcile "the always ?" you have with Ham's usage?

--Ham


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