Some good stuff here SA ... can't do it justice in five mins ... I'd like anarchy too, if I believed it was practical.
The practicalities are as you say to do with the size of the social groups; and if we see the cosmos comprising more than one social group, then we have practicalities where the diferent groups bump up against each other. One large or many small communities, I can't see literall "nil governance" ever working. I really think we're talking about agreeing the minimum necessary lightest-touch governance ... it beomes a definitional matter of the word "governance". Anyway, gotta go. Ian On 7/18/07, Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Ian] > > I think I said some years ago that the crux of what > > we all seem to want is the form of "governence" ... > I still feel > > that. I think there is a lot of room for creativity > in bringing quality > > values to such governance, but no governance - > anarchy - just > > doesn't seem practical. Is it just me ? > > > I like anarchy. It seems practical. About as > practical as it can be, but it's always the security > and maintenance of common wants and needs that bring > governance. Yet, are these for large societies, these > needs and wants of governant actions? Security in > this day and age, sure governance seems necessary, > then Costa Rica has no standing army and meanwhile > nearby hostile countries exist. It's difficult > getting into particulars, it's like jumping off a > cliff with a parachute hoping it MIGHT work. Sure > some people wouldn't know what to do with themselves > without others to always have to be there for them. > Freeloaders are in tribal societies, too, but are they > really the problem? I've always said, if I wanted to > live off the land, I can't. Why? Well, I need to pay > taxes still. How will I generate the $ for taxes - > with maize? Here I'll trade ya. The biggest change > would be lifestyle, of course. Even now though, when > winter comes, I can't turn on my oil heater. It costs > too much. I use electric heaters. Now I have a son. > His room gets really cold in the winter. We'll need > to buy another electric heater. I'm thinking about > getting this one that supposedly will heat up from the > basement into the next floor up, and so forth. Ah, > maybe. I'll need to think quick though. It's July > and in two months it can start getting cold, in three > months possible snow, ah... but global warming I can > depend on that, right? I heard this group defined > Pittsburgh as the 'greenest city' east of the > Mississippi River due to all its' 'green' buildings > that have been recently constructed. This same group > said by the end of the century Pittsburgh will have > the same climate as Alabama. So, does it come down to > compassion and empathy? Are they the forces that can > change society into something more likeable? It is a > dynamic question, meaning, all the answers are not > really present yet. > > > > woods, > SA > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. > http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
