Renee -- in your note below you say:

" If a student cannot reasonably discuss what he/she read, 
then I would have him/her read to me to see what I could find out."


When you have your student read to you, isn't this using oral reading to
assess silent reading performance? 


Timothy Rasinski, Ph.D.
Reading and Writing Center
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Kent State University
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renee
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:00 AM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim


On Jul 11, 2007, at 6:32 PM, RASINSKI, TIMOTHY wrote:

> Renee:   I admire your focus on comprehension.  However, if you have a

> student who is having difficulty comprehending, how do you determine 
> the source of the difficulty?
>  ..... snip......
> Without knowing the source of the difficulty,  instruction to meet the

> source of the difficulty is a challenge at best.

I never said I don't look for the source of the difficulty. What I said 
is that I don't use oral reading skills to assess silent reading 
skills. If a student has a reasonable sense of what he is reading but 
is not a great oral reader, I do not assume that he/she is not a good 
silent reader. If a student cannot reasonably discuss what he/she read, 
then I would have him/her read to me to see what I could find out.

But I don't assume that a poor oral reader is a poor silent reader.

Here is what I said:

> I have never used oral reading skills to assess silent reading. In
> fact, I don't "assess" silent reading in the first place. What I
assess
> is comprehension. If I am required to give students a "score" or
> "grade" for fluency or other reading skills/tools, I do it, but not by
> choice.
>
> To me, reading is making meaning. Making meaning is exemplified by how
> well a student is able to discuss or write about what he or she has
> read.

Renee

"El fin de toda educacion debe ser seguramente el servicio a otros."
~ Cesar Chavez



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