On Jul 14, 2007, at 1:01 PM, RASINSKI, TIMOTHY wrote:

> I guess I'm confused here.  In order to use oral reading to get  
> some clues about where the child is having trouble reading in  
> general, one is operating under the assumption that what a reader  
> does when reading orally reflects how he/she reads when reading  
> silently.
>
> Goodman's Miscue Analysis certainly operates under this  
> assumption.  The miscues that a reader makes when reading orally  
> reflect the processes that a reader uses when reading silently.   
> Oral reading is a reflection of silent reading.

Tim,

If you remember back to how this started, you made this statement:


> On Jul 9, 2007, at 3:27 AM, RASINSKI, TIMOTHY wrote:
>
>
>> ... It very likely is slow and halting during silent reading  --
>> readers who read in a slow an labored way orally, tend to read in  a
>> very similar way when reading silently.
>>

I took exception to this statement with my question, "How can we  
possibly know this?"

I made a simple statement that had to do with THAT comment, and then  
the conversation veered into other details that have nothing to do  
with the original, pure comment. I do not believe that one can assume  
that a child who does not read "well" orally also does not read  
"well" silently...... IF that child shows good comprehension of what  
he read.

I was talking about comprehension, and not making the assumption that  
there is an automatic correlation between how well a child reads  
orally and how well a child reads silently.

So I will repeat/paraphrase my original thought..... that if a child  
does not read somewhat fluently orally, I am not going to assume that  
he/she also does not read very fluently silently IF his/her  
comprehension of what he/she has read is sufficient, as determined by  
what he/she can recall of what was read as determined by  
conversation, question and answers, and/or a written response.

Now, if the child reads orally in a less-than-fluent manner and the  
same child is unable to talk or write about what he/she has read, I  
would then make an assumption that the child has some silent reading  
difficulty as well, ..... because the child has some reading  
difficulty in general. Or that what they child is reading is simply  
too difficult for any number of reasons.

The point being that there are lots of variables. :-)

Renee


"To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong."
Joseph Chilton Pearce



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