Jeremy Taylor wrote:
> 
> Seth Spitzer wrote:
> 
> > Jeremy Taylor wrote:
> >> Seth Spitzer wrote:
> >>> It is a preference, but not in the UI.  (I thought at one point it
> >>> was, but I can't find it now.)
> >>> You can turn it off on a per server basis.  By default, it is on.  to
> >>> change the default, add this to your prefs.js file:
> >> On an individual group basis would be nicer I think - that way i can
> >> distinguish better between several "*.general" groups.
> >
> > If you can think of a good way in the UI to allow the user to do this,
> 
> I would suggest a 2-step thing, the first being the thing already
> mentioned, on the Preferences:
> [tick] Abbreviate newsgroup names
> 
> this would make the default abbreviation on all groups as they are now
> 
> The next user action to customise this on a per-group basis would be to
> right-click the newsgroup and choose:
> Customise newsgroup name abbrev
> from the menu
> 
> this would pop up a dialog box and provide a list/combobox of the
> options, eg:
> n.p.m.mail-news
> n.p.mozilla.mail-news
> n.public.mozilla.mail-news
> netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
> 
> > please let me know.  Patches to implement it are welcomed, too.
> 
> I'd love to help, but I'm not that confident you'd want my help... I
> haven't set myself up to build mozilla or play with the code... I've not
> even had a peek under the bonnet yet. I've got a bit of a steep learning
> curve ahead of me if I do go from 'lurker' to 'helper'.
> 
> >
> >> What bugs me about the names at the moment is that because of the
> >> abbreviations they are ordered really dumb - instead of nz.comp and
> >> nz.wanted being together, they are separated by
> >> netscape.public.general,  netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news,
> >> nz.reg.christchurch.general, and  nz.reg.hawkes-bay.general.
> >
> >
> > Newsgroups for a given server are listed alphabetical.  Are you seeing
> > something else?
> 
> They are alphabetical, but not from the lowest level back to the
> highest. Using the example I mentioned, this is what I see in NS6:
> n.comp
> n.p.general
> n.p.m.mail-news
> n.r.c.general
> n.r.h-b.general
> n.wanted

This proves the above point.  I have NO idea where the above groups are
- going by the last name.  I'm a visual person, not analytical and the
above listing is totally meaningless to me..

Thanks for looking into this.

jy 
> Whereas I would expect them to keep to the hierarchy structure of the
> newsgroups like this:
> n.p.general
> n.p.m.mail-news
> n.comp
> n.wanted
> n.r.c.general
> n.r.h-b.general
> 
> >
> >> the order  should be user modifiable. IMHO.
> >
> >
> > I thought there was a bug on this, but I couldn't find it.  Please log
> > it and assign it to me.  The user should be able to reorder newsgroups.
> >
> > -Seth
> 
> I'm only using NS6, not a specific M-build... should I set myself up
> with an actual Mozilla build first before I comment on that, or should I
> just refer to M18 or some other as equivalent to what I have been using?
> 
> Jeremy

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