*Please see comments intermixed in previous posts below* Torgeir Veimo wrote:
> J Mosser wrote: > >> Now, if one is not a Joe-Average enduser...then they should be aware >> of the inherent risks associated with using nightly builds and take >> personal responsibility *when*, and not complain *if*, something goes >> wrong. > > > > From http://www.mozilla.org/get-involved.html; > > "So you want to help? Great! You don't have to be a C++ guru and you > don't need to spend lots of time. A big portion of the help we need is > feedback and bug reports." Thanks for the reminder. :) > All the time someone comes with feedback that is not a bug report, all > they get is "shut up!". Well, "shut up" is a bit harsh. I would say, however, that when people *RANT* and *WHINE* about things that have been talked about 1000 times before (without doing *any* research on the topic) they deserve to get told RTFM and STFU occasionally. :) Seriously though, *ranting and whining are a waste of everyone's time.* It does not accomplish anything useful. If there is a *new* undocumented bug, then it is appropriate to say something about it, whether it be a newsgroup post or a Bugzilla report. However, when it is something that has a bug filed, or the situation has been explained, do not spam about it. This wastes everyone's time. The one thing that people need to remember is this, "Mozilla is not intended for end users." plain and simple. If one takes a good look around the Mozilla.org website, they will find numerous statements like this. If you are adventurous enough to use nightlies, then go ahead, but do not *complain* about this'n'that. > No wonder people are whining over how arrogant mozilla developers > seems to be to joe public. I do not believe the Mozilla developers are arrogant. I believe that the people that *complain* show the Mozilla developers very little respect and in turn, very little respect is returned. This is somewhat counterproductive, but makes for a good laugh now and then. (thanks gerv) :) If people kept telling you, "Your product is CRAP because it doesn't have feature X." how would you feel? The human thing to do is defend it with words and 'snubbing'. However, in the spirit of Open Source it should be said, "Please put forth some effort and add it yourself." Mozilla will only get better, faster, if individuals step up and make a contribution, instead of complaining about it. Regards, J Mosser
