Jason Mosser wrote:

> The one thing that people need to remember is this, "Mozilla is not 
> intended for end users." plain and simple.  If one takes a good look 
> around the Mozilla.org website, they will find numerous statements 
> like this.  

I've been seeing this a lot lately in the newsgroups, but I always 
wonder: Where does this idea come from?  Of course mozilla is intended 
for end users. Why else would we all be building this application suite? 
 Mozilla.org is itself a distributor, and even other distributors are 
largely distributing mozilla applications, relatively intact.  If the 
goal were really just a platform, we would be spending a lot more effort 
on test harnesses and a lot less on apps.  Success means getting this 
code into the hands of as many end users as possible, and that means the 
apps as well as the components.  I can't find anywhere on mozilla.org 
that says 'Mozilla is not intended for end users', but I can find these 
mozilla.org pages:

 http://www.mozilla.org/get-involved.html , which says " We need 
documentation for users...".  
http://www.mozilla.org/quality/ , which says "...contribute to placing a 
fast, stable, and truly standards-compliant browser and mail/news reader 
onto the hard disks of tens of millions of Internet users..."
http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/ , which says "This page provides 
links to documentation for users of Mozilla and Mozilla-based browsers."
http://www.mozilla.org/unity-of-interface.html , wherein JWZ said "the 
goal is to let the user accomplish what they want to accomplish: not to 
produce the perfect implementation of a particular protocol."
http://www.mozilla.org/mozilla-at-one.html , which says "Now that that 
groundwork has been laid more attention can be paid to other areas where 
work is needed, like Mozilla testing by end users ..."
http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap/mozilla-1.0.html , where Brendan says 
'...the world needs a "1.0" from mozilla.org soon...' and " We think the 
world will be a better place, with more hands helping to improve 
Mozilla, and more people benefiting from distributions of Mozilla..."
http://www.mozilla.org/binaries.html , which shows several end user 
products which either incorporate mozilla intact, or use it as the basis 
for their products.

I think people are confusing some things that *are* often said on 
mozilla.org, and are true: mozilla.org mailing lists and newsgroups are 
not intended for end users, nor are the nightlies or other pre-release 
builds.  Even milestone builds may not be suitable for many end users, 
but a key goal of mozilla1.0 must certainly be no less than to displace 
non-mozilla browsers on every possible desktop.  They might not all have 
the red star ;-), but let's face it, they are all mozilla at heart.

Peter


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