I'm concerned about the general theme throughout this thread which 
focuses on rudeness by foreigners.  I see cars sitting in the middle of 
the road near my house fairly often, with the same sort of 
waiting/chatting stuff going on.  Are the rude folks Somalis?  Maybe.  
But more often, they're plain old Americans of various races.  I've had 
cars nearly run me over on my bike in my neighborhood or downtown.  Are 
these Somali drivers or <insert your favorite ethnic group> drivers?  
Nay.  Once in a while, maybe.  But I've had more near-misses with 
self-important Americans driving to important bizniss appointments in 
their Lincoln Continentals, or driving their screaming kids to their 
next sports event in the soccer-mom van.

The same thing can be said of gas stations, convenience stores, and 
similar spots - surly employees come in all races and ethnicities, and 
pointing fingers at Somali employees or  <insert your favorite ethnic 
group> employees says more about our xenophobic American attitudes than 
it says about the race/ethnicity that's singled out as "rude."

Let's put blame where it's deserved - we have a society that is getting 
more tolerant of poor manners, poor customer service, poor attitudes, 
and a general lack of caring about anyone else.  This is OUR AMERICAN 
society, not a problem with "them durned furriners."   Just spend an 
afternoon at the DMV, at a coffee house, or any other place where lots 
of people come through, and watch who is snarky to the employees, and 
how pleasant (or not) each employee is.  Lack of civility is indemic in 
our 2002 society, and it's up to each of us to try to turn that back.  
We aren't going to do that by pointing fingers at another culture and 
deciding they need to learn the American way of interacting.  We 
wouldn't be giving them any lessons to be proud of.

Roxana Orrell
Central

>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:41:50 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Caffeinate The World), [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Mpls] Rudeness on the Rise in Minneapolis
>
> Let's get back to the subject.
> <snip>
> As a general rule, when someone is being rude or inconsiderate, I 
> recommend pointing it out. Be reasonable and yes, judge each individual 
> situation in order to be safe. I don't know a great deal about Somali 
> culture, but in most areas of the world the street is where people, not 
> exclusively cars, congregate. That said, in America it is just plain 
> inconsiderate to hold up traffic. The offenders may be surprised to 
> learn that they are being rude. Or they may get defensive because they 
> don't care--each situation will be different because we're all 
> individuals, ultimately, whatever culture we were raised in.

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