At 12:16 PM 1/12/2004, Terrell Brown wrote:
[TB] Wrong! Streets designed for moving traffic. The NIMBYism one finds in many neighborhood has the idea that their neighborhood is a gated community and should not be entered by anyone not living there or an invited guest.
Streets in Eden Prairie have a logic that approximates your average deer path. Steets in Minneapolis generally follow a grid that provides multiple routes for getting from point A to point B. Anyone who has driven from Lund's to Loring Park knows that Hennepin Avenue or Lyndale are the least efficient routes. Hennepin and Lyndale are also not the only routes which the city has designated as "snow emergency routes" giving them priority plowing when Minneapolis has its occaisional winter storm.
The idea that I should not pass through a particular area, even if it is along the shortest/quickest route from A to B represents a type of elitism that goes against the idea of community. Last I checked, my car was licensed to operate on the streets, not some streets.
Thanks Terrell - you put this well. Unfortunately, there are some council members who seem to want the Eden Prairie Street Design.
Several examples of this NIMBYism going wild:
Exhibit A: Lake and Elliot and Lake and 10th. There are barracades at those streets (and just take a drive by - they look really tacky). This diverts more traffic to the already over used Chicago and Lake Intersection.
Will this barracade continue when the Sears Building is redeveloped?
Exhibit B: 1st Avenue north of 28th St.
Grid design - with alphabetical and numbered streets are good city design. I encourage City Councilors not to keep on with this type of nonsense of baracading streets with sqeaky wheel residents - at the expense of residents in the same general area. After all the most likely drivers in a particular neighborhood are going to be people in that neighborhood.
This type of NIMBYism also prevents more efficient bus routing. The whole Como Av Bus controversy in St Paul is a good example of this.
Gary Schiff, Robert Lilligren - are you listening?
Stadium Vote:
Was that Hennepin County Board vote a boys vs the girls vote? The male Henn County board members want the Stadium. The female board members seem to think it's a poor use of Tax money.
I'm disappointed that Mark Stenglein voted in favor of this resolution. I'm not surprised Peter McLaughlin voted for it - McLaughlin often favors boondoggles - as his relentless promotion of the 35W Excess Project shows.
I still don't see how more sports bars improves the day to day appeal of a downtown.
================================== List Boycott: Response to David Brauer and Steven Clift
from Steve Cramer's post
http://www.mnforum.org/pipermail/mpls/2003-December/029094.html
Jim Graham's bitter and abusive post to the Minneapolis Issues List last = week about Project for Pride in Living, Inc. (PPL) demands a response. = Thanks to the List Manager for calling Mr. Graham on his inflamed = rhetoric, but more needs to be said.
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I read into this that Cramer had made the complaint - since he thanked Brauer for responding to Graham's strongly worded criticisms of PPL. When I talked with Graham last month, he confirmed that. Brauer says this isn't true.
When I got booted off this list, it was for a post that criticized Peter McLaughlin - and McLaughlin was the one who made the complaint (and Brauer did confirm that to me). I made an assumption - after reading Cramer's post - and also after talking to Graham - that the situation was similar.
The concerns I've relayed to the E Democracy Board of Directors - and to Steve Clift on the phone is that David Brauer is editor of two major newspapers in Minneapolis - and he also manages this list - including the editing aspect of banning people. At the time I was banned, MTN was co-sponsoring the Minneapolis list - and MTN gets taxpayer money. As a taxpayer in the city, I had a little problem with getting banned from a list that was partially sponsored by a taxpayer funded organization. It seems that now a non-profit has taken over what MTN was doing with E Democracy. Seems like MAP for NonProfits has taken on this role.
See this page for more info:
http://www.e-democracy.org/center/technology.html
I think the St Paul E Democracy model will be worth following - and seeing what transpires as a result of that. The St Paul list has been experiencing regular growth. I think the Minneapolis list has stabilized in population over the last year.
Eva Young
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Blog is up:
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