--- Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 

> Yes, they are public streets, and your driver's license allows you
> the 
> PRIVILEGE of operating a motor vehicle on public streets.  Nobody is 
> talking about making it illegal for you to drive on streets where you
> don't live.  Get a grip.

No, the quote from you was "Unless you live in a neighborhood (or are
visiting a person or business in such an area) where such calming
techniques are in use, you most likely probably should not be there."
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg25476.html

No the term "illegal" wasn't used.  However, it was made clear that
visiting motor vehicles aren't welcome.  I can't think of any urban
center which doesn't have traffic.

Public facilities are just that, public.  No one's driving should need
to be restricted to 35W and 394

> The idea is that there is no reason we (the public) should make it 
> EASIER for selfish commuters to terrorize our neighborhoods by
> driving 
> through them -- no doubt breaking the speed limit, exceding noise 
> ordinances and running stop signs, as the vast majority of drivers do
> but rather that those local streets be designed for the comfort and 
> convenience of the people who live and work on them.  You can still 
> drive on them all you want, but don't complain about how slow they
> are,  how narrow they are, how they hold you up.

If people are in fact breaking traffic laws, law enforcement should
deal with the problem.  I, however, wasn't complaining about slowness,
what I said is they are often more efficient (that means quicker).


> You're just lucky I don't own a big noisy truck -- or maybe I'd drive
>  past both of your residences at all hours of the night every week. 


Bring your truck.  It will join the buses, fire trucks, ambulances,
cars, bikes and pedestrians that one finds in the urban core.  If I
wanted silence, I'd move to the middle of a forest.



Terrell Brown
Loring Park






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