Raúl Sánchez Siles wrote:
Neil Wyper wrote:
On 1/17/08, Vitaly Luban <[email protected]> wrote:
Steve Underwood wrote:
Well, the new devices work OK with Windows. For Linux I need to change a
bunch of threading stuff that has been added to the TI library code, to
it works with pthreads. They've introduced threading in the most recent
versions of the code, to better support EEM.
Steve
Steve,
Don't you see that does not work? You did not let me to access that code
couple of years ago, I spitted
on TI and completed my project using Freescale. Recently we abandoned
Renesas exactly because their
policy w/respect to development tools is similar to yours. Who lost? Me?
Not to the slightest! It's you
(TI) who lost sales and design wins.
What are you guarding there by hiding this code? From whom? You are not
freakin Green Hills, you're
supposed to be making money selling chips, what great deal of sense does
it make to ban people from
developing tools for your silicon on their own and do your job for you?
Vitaly.
I don't think you understand Steve's role. My understanding is that Steve
is a volunteer with no relationship with TI except an non-disclosure
agreement. That NDA has allowed him access to TI's JTAG interface specs
and the ability to develop GDBProxy, but prevents distribution of the
source to GDBProxy.
I agree with much of your rant against TI, but I don't think Steve should
be
the recipient of the complaints. He provides an excellent service to the
community, and deserves our appreciation for those efforts. Closed source
GDBProxy is a nuisance, but this is due to TI's policy, not Steve's work.
He has made many contributions to GCC, and released all of those sources
under the GPL.
Well, I don't really know who's exactly who on this story. But, Vitaly,
before flaming and blaming anyone please, inform yourself who's really to
blame.
I think Steve has done a great work with his support to mspgcc. We need to
make sure who we rant on, because free and volunteer work needs a lot of
support and this includes moral support.
IIRC, Steve was given to me by my Avnet rep as inside TI contact to ask
about access to gdbproxy code,
he's no volunteer, he works for TI, his non-TI address just gives him an
ability to disassociate himself
from TI officially, but he is a TI man nevertheless. Here:
Subject:
MSP430 Info on JTAG and gdb Linux issues
From:
"Patrick James" <[email protected]>
Date:
Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:12:29 -0800
To:
"'Vitaly Luban'" <[email protected]>
CC:
"'Underwood, Stephen'" <[email protected]>, "'Rahbar, Ali'"
<[email protected]>
Hello Vitaly
The attached file is preliminary and TI is sharing it with customers “As
Is” with no factory support at the moment. There are plans to release
this to the website in mid 2007.
<>
Regarding MSP430 gdb and Linux issues please contact Stephen Underwood.
I have copied him on this message. <>
Regards,
Patrick James
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As you can see, Steve's e-mail is [email protected] and he was the
one who refused to allow me access to gdbproxy source even though I was
ready to sign NDA and everything else necessary.
Vitaly.
