слушайте, ну детский сад же!

maybe it's better to return to things this mail list was created for? I do
not think people interested in personal opinions about TI's business models
etc. IMHO, of course. this mail list is about open source product named
'mspgcc', am I right?

also, powerful enough developers community like this, can use it's minds and
create a tool replacing the msp430-gdbproxy, and not for flaming here.

2008/1/18, Vitaly Luban <[email protected]>:
>
> Олежа, ты перепил сегодня, да?
>
> Oleg Verych wrote:
>
> >Please, don't forget "chicken and egg" problem. It *is* possible, that
> >job was offered just because of the work, MSPGCC developer did.
> >
> >
> >
> I couldn't care less. Steve was the one who refused to allow me access,
> I repeat. He was asking for some
> "proof that I'm a MSP430 developer". WTF? As if the fact that 2 reps,
> one from Avnet and another from
> Harvey King arranged that is not enough, those guys are making their
> money selling chips, including TI made
> ones, they wouldnt do what they were doing w/o serious reasons and
> expectations.
>
> But what's most repulsive, it's the behavior. As if it's me, who needs
> that stuff from TI, as if I'm a beggar
> pleading for a money in some state-funded burocratic pseudo-charity.
> Let's set things straight, I don't need
> freaking TI. They might as well eat their chips and receive their
> salaries in them. I have enough freedom
> of components choice and all the technical advantages in the world
> wouldn't force me to let anyone to talk
> to me as if I'm a beggar and he is charity director. Period.
>
> >Vitaly, disclosing private emails is a bad taste.
> >
>
> And who you will be to teach me? Self proclaimed etics guru?
>
> It's just that unlike those who were trying to shun me, blaming in lack
> of respect and undermining moral
> support to a volunteer, I know what I'm talking about, technical issues
> or not, regardless. If I'm in slightest
> doubt, I keep silence. So whoever will try to shun me pretending he/she
> knows better will get the proof to
> the contrary this instant. Its always been this way and always will be.
>
> > Now, i hope, you can
> >see how to implement JTAG stuff on PC. What's the problem?
> >
> >
> >
> Now, do you know what are you talking about? What the freaking stuff on
> PC? Do you have the slightest
> idea what that project was about? I bet not. Do you know where to get
> specs on using JTAG to debug MSP
> running code without begging for it? Ditto. What you wrote here about
> "JTAG stuff on PC" is not only
> irrelevant, it's offensive. Thanks g-d that majority on this list who
> have not ex-soviet experience don't understand
> that.
>
> So unless you know what are you talking about and you're sure that the
> stuff you want to convey has merit
> you better be silent, you look less than wise otherwise. ;)
>
> >Heck, so many noise around that PC software programming...
> >
> >
> >
> PC software programming my ass! (very angry)
>
> Vitaly.
>
>
>
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