Hey Dwight,

I'm still a real newbie with MLO and getting it right can be tough with so 
many different options - but that's why I like MLO - it's got the power!

I'm giving your suggestion another go. "Forget filters; Learn Zoom - 1st".

So far, I've created 2 tabs: All-H and All-W. These are zoomed to my top 
level folders home & work and they're based on the built-in all tasks view 
- no filters. Here are the views that I had developed at 1st and thought I 
was close to having what I was after with MLO - until I ran into the issue 
I reported at the top of this thread. With this set of views in mind, are 
you suggesting that I would create all these views as tabs? Or what would 
you recommend for the next steps to work toward this functionality?
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I really appreciate your time helping me figure this out!
Bob


On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 12:08:34 PM UTC-4, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
> Hi Bob, I will discuss proper operation of filters and such with you later 
> but first I wanted to help you get the zoom right, because it is designed 
> for what you are doung and works well.
>
> You said that *"Zooming into one of [your views] sets the zoom for all of 
> them."* It sounds as though you are using the option to synchronize zooms 
> across workspaces.  Right click on the tab for a workspace where you plan 
> to zoom and select something like "setup workspace". (Sorry I can't be more 
> precise but I'm away from my desktop). Look for an option that says 
> something like "sync zoom" and turn it off. You may see another option like 
> "sync selection" - it seems that you may have that on as well, you could 
> play with it and see if you like the behaviour better with this one on or 
> off.
>
> Zoom sync is a wonderful tool for example if you are managing multiple 
> projects and you have a series of project management views like 
> What should I do next
> Is anything overdue
> What starts tomorrow
> Do I have any phone calls to make
> Etc
>
> Rather than making a copy of each view for each project, you can just make 
> a set of views with zoom synch.  Then, when you zoom to a project for one 
> view they all switch to viewing that same project. But if you have zoom 
> synch enabled when you don't really want it, you get problems like the one 
> you described. 
> -Dwight
> Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2
>
> On Sep 24, 2015, Bob Clark <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Dwight,
>>
>> I'm trying your suggestion, but I'm not sure that's what I want. It kind 
>> of blows my view scheme. I have a group of home views and a group of work 
>> views. Zooming into one of them sets the zoom for all of them. That doesn't 
>> make sense - *to me*.
>>
>> I think this a bug - or at least a user interface inconvenience:). And I 
>> don't think it has anything to do with filters - except that filters are 
>> causing an entered task to disappear. So disappearance is understood - it's 
>> respecting the filter that says I just created a task outside the scope of 
>> the view/filter.
>>
>> I'm saying - FWIW - the problem is, when you're IN a view, you should not 
>> be able to enter a task that goes to a folder outside the scope of the view 
>> - but that's what's happening. Again, this only happens when switching back 
>> to a view and not clicking within the view to select any task/folder. Are 
>> you saying it SHOULD do this?
>>
>> The workaround for now is to click something in the view to let MLO know 
>> where I am and where I want the task to go - rather than "\".
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 3:16:59 PM UTC-4, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Bob. The behaviour you are looking for is implemented in Zoom, not 
>>> in Filter. Get rid of the toplevelparent filters and instead, select the 
>>> top level parent for each view, select it, right click and select Zoom In. 
>>> You get pretty much the same view except (1) the top level parent is not 
>>> itself a part of the view any longer (2) you now have a banner across the 
>>> top of the view stating that it is zoomed, (3) newly created tasks are 
>>> created at the root level of the zoom (ie the top level parent) rather then 
>>> the root of the whole tree.
>>> -Dwight
>>> Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2
>>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2015, Bob Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven't been able to workaround this problem or find it in the forum.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what's happening:
>>>>
>>>> I'm in a 'home' view with toplevelparent='home'. I select a task. Then 
>>>> I select the 'work' view with toplevelparent='work'. I hit the Insert key 
>>>> and add a task.
>>>>
>>>> I can see that it's being entered ABOVE the 'work' folder that's shown. 
>>>> Once I hit Enter, it disappears. 
>>>>
>>>> When I look for it, it's not in ANY of my folders, it's not in the 
>>>> Inbox, and it's not in LostAndFound. It's in "\".
>>>>
>>>> I *think* this is happening because, even while I'm IN the 'work' view, 
>>>> nothing is selected and task entry is not directly associated with the 
>>>> folders/tasks in the view. But I don't understand why my task would go to 
>>>> "\", which is really kind of a no-mans-land the way I have my views 
>>>> organized. I expect my tasks to be either in the inbox (quick entry or 
>>>> emailed) or they get entered in the view/folder I see on the screen. 
>>>>
>>>> This is easily repeatable - at least on my Win7 system. As a matter of 
>>>> fact, I submit a task that goes to "\" and then hit Enter and then Insert 
>>>> another and it keeps going to "\". Only when I select something in the 
>>>> view, will my Inserted task be placed in the appropriate folder.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if I'm overlooking something. I stumbled into this because 
>>>> I wanted to created my own (slightly modified) Inbox view - 'MyInbox'. But 
>>>> when I select it after being in some other view, I can't enter tasks 
>>>> directly until I click a task within the view.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
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