Yes, but I'd reverse the chart labels!
- Alan (always suspicious of situationism) (not looking for another
argument) (just got up)
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015, ruth catlow wrote:
Above: (left) /Scientific Diagramme/ (right) /Drawing of a quote from The Joy
of Revolution by Ken Knabb//
/
Please accept my contribution to the conversation (above).
Very appreciative of the efforts by all here to make sense and meaning. Thank
you.
Ruth
On 06/09/15 07:29, Antye Greie-Ripatti wrote:
thanks for sharing your thoughts? on all ends, i just want to say, it means
something
in regards to syria, i read this this morning and it helped a bit to
understand (cause also Putin is playing)
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/5/9265621/syrian-refugee-charts
like all conflicts these days they have so many layers and the complexity
and depth,
like Ukraine for instance, which is ongoing and severe too
people also leaving the country constantly?
etc
blaming could be also called history writing/ rewriting understanding
and its is super important and all crisis are US crises too, cause they
been playing hard!
but solutions --->
The enormous profits which Halliburton and Cheney won should be taxed and
paid to the refugees they created with the obscene Iraq war, a war based
on lies and at flagrant crime against international law and common sense.
true!
keep spreading
i just re-read the entire "vietnam war' wikipedia entry yesterday cause
suddenly i couldnt remember WHY there was a war
i wanted to explain my daughter
?
insane
sorry, fragmented comments
On Sep 5, 2015, at 12:59 AM, Ana Vald?s <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Alan you have been in the Middle East as I has been. Israel receives
per year billions of American support both military and economic. Without
the American support Israel could not manage the fences in the West Bank
and in Gaza.
They cost millions to keep. The new fence, separating the town of Bethlem
in two, is cutting the Catholic monastery of Cremisan, which vineyards has
been the only working place for hundreds of Palestinian families, in two.
The Palestinian are not going any longer to access the vineyards.
The US was the heir of the colonial European and was the kingmaker of the
region for years. The Marines derrocated the Iranian first minister In
1954 because he wanted to nationalise the oil and manage the wells without
the American oil companies. It's not me "blaming the US" without
historical facts. The same facts Eisenhower stated when he said "we are
the hostages of the military industrial establishment".
My point is: who toppled Saddam and Ghadaffi and who has been supporting
Assad all these years? The US economical and geopolitical strategies has
created the refugees which are fleeing today the region and they are seen
by politicians, weapon dealers, war mongers and bankers as "collateral
damage".
That's my point why we are not seen in these days the same rallies to
support the refugees we are seen in Europe?
You say "US is giving more than many other countries". But that's the most
bizarre paradox: The US is taking with a hand and giving with the other
hand.
The enormous profits which Halliburton and Cheney won should be taxed and
paid to the refugees they created with the obscene Iraq war, a war based
on lies and at flagrant crime against international law and common sense.
Ana
Skickat fr?n min iPhone
4 sep 2015 kl. 18:17 skrev Alan Sondheim <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
But the refugees ARE a European problem, and France was in the mid-east
as well, England had its empire, Belgium its Leopold. You keep going
after blame after blame after blame. Why not ask why the US is doing
little? Apparently it's giving a lot more aid than other countries (think
that was in the Guardian, I might be able to track the source down)
combined. And Europe would not be taking refugees in, were they not
coming across "its" borders. That's not the case here; what is the case
is the horrific xenophobia which is placing the U.S. under lockdown. I
see lots of calls for humanitarian support and aid, very little for
bringing refugees over - I'm also not sure how that would be done, where
they would come from - and this in the case of brutal opposition to the
11 million (apparently) undocumented workers/migrants here from central
and south America - which is obviously far more than the total migrants
to date in Europe. I'd like to see ALL refugees everywhere legalized; I
can't do anything re: Europe, but we voice our opposition here to the
Republican party and its proto- fascistic take on the world. That's
pretty much all I can say about it.
- Alan
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, Ana Vald?s wrote:
We see in the whole European world ppl gathering in supporting the
refugees
biking to Calais from London with tents food and medicines in Stockholm
where I lived for almost my whole adult life thousands of families are
offering to open their houses to refugees.
And I am talking about a country with a xenophobe party with almost one
million voters.
Alan and the Americans in this list what are the US doing? I don't mean
the
government but the ppl where are the rallies to help the refugees from
the
Middle East, a region in turmoil since the wars started by the US and
their
geopolitical strategies?
The refugees can't be an European problem.
Ana
El sep 4, 2015 2:39 PM, "Alan Sondheim" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> escribi?:
Germany is set to take in 800,000 refugees by the end of the
year.
America, a country that won two World Wars, went to the moon,
and did "the other things," has taken in, well, far fewer.
Quoth the Guardian:
The US has admitted approximately 1,500 Syrian refugees
since the beginning of the civil war there in 2011, mostly
within the last fiscal year. Since April, the number of admitted
refugees has more than doubled from an estimate of 700.
...
Anna Greene, IRCs director of policy & advocacy for US
programs, said the 1,500 people the US has admitted thus far
doesnt even begin to scratch the surface of what is needed and
what could really make a difference.
Oxfam wants the US to up that number to 70,000 by the end of
2016.
Correction: This post and its headline originally said that
Germany planned to take in 800,000 Syrian refugees by the end of
the year. That is incorrect. It is 800,000 refugees total.
- Alan
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