I won't pick an argument with you about Situationism: )
but i must defend the symbolic precision of the pie chart!
not because science isn't a good way of knowing things
but because science only knows how to know things scientifically.
and it cannot (because of its nature) know the vastness and
multi-faceted worlds of reality to which it cannot even begin to apply
its knowledge acquisition tools.
For this reason I also think it is a particularly good joke!
I paired it with the Situationism quote because it encourages an
attitude of curiosity towards things that otherwise horrify and
terrify... (and therefore debilitate)
On 06/09/15 15:36, Alan Sondheim wrote:
Yes, but I'd reverse the chart labels!
- Alan (always suspicious of situationism) (not looking for another
argument) (just got up)
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015, ruth catlow wrote:
Above: (left) /Scientific Diagramme/ (right) /Drawing of a quote from
The Joy of Revolution by Ken Knabb//
/
Please accept my contribution to the conversation (above).
Very appreciative of the efforts by all here to make sense and
meaning. Thank you.
Ruth
On 06/09/15 07:29, Antye Greie-Ripatti wrote:
thanks for sharing your thoughts? on all ends, i just want to say,
it means something
in regards to syria, i read this this morning and it helped a bit to
understand (cause also Putin is playing)
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/5/9265621/syrian-refugee-charts
like all conflicts these days they have so many layers and the
complexity and depth,
like Ukraine for instance, which is ongoing and severe too
people also leaving the country constantly?
etc
blaming could be also called history writing/ rewriting understanding
and its is super important and all crisis are US crises too, cause
they been playing hard!
but solutions --->
The enormous profits which Halliburton and Cheney won should be
taxed and paid to the refugees they created with the obscene Iraq
war, a war based on lies and at flagrant crime against
international law and common sense.
true!
keep spreading
i just re-read the entire "vietnam war' wikipedia entry yesterday
cause suddenly i couldnt remember WHY there was a war
i wanted to explain my daughter
?
insane
sorry, fragmented comments
On Sep 5, 2015, at 12:59 AM, Ana Vald?s <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Alan you have been in the Middle East as I has been. Israel
receives per year billions of American support both military and
economic. Without the American support Israel could not manage the
fences in the West Bank and in Gaza.
They cost millions to keep. The new fence, separating the town of
Bethlem in two, is cutting the Catholic monastery of Cremisan,
which vineyards has been the only working place for hundreds of
Palestinian families, in two. The Palestinian are not going any
longer to access the vineyards.
The US was the heir of the colonial European and was the kingmaker
of the region for years. The Marines derrocated the Iranian first
minister In 1954 because he wanted to nationalise the oil and
manage the wells without the American oil companies. It's not me
"blaming the US" without historical facts. The same facts
Eisenhower stated when he said "we are the hostages of the military
industrial establishment".
My point is: who toppled Saddam and Ghadaffi and who has been
supporting Assad all these years? The US economical and
geopolitical strategies has created the refugees which are fleeing
today the region and they are seen by politicians, weapon dealers,
war mongers and bankers as "collateral damage".
That's my point why we are not seen in these days the same rallies
to support the refugees we are seen in Europe?
You say "US is giving more than many other countries". But that's
the most bizarre paradox: The US is taking with a hand and giving
with the other hand.
The enormous profits which Halliburton and Cheney won should be
taxed and paid to the refugees they created with the obscene Iraq
war, a war based on lies and at flagrant crime against
international law and common sense.
Ana
Skickat fr?n min iPhone
4 sep 2015 kl. 18:17 skrev Alan Sondheim <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
But the refugees ARE a European problem, and France was in the
mid-east as well, England had its empire, Belgium its Leopold. You
keep going after blame after blame after blame. Why not ask why
the US is doing little? Apparently it's giving a lot more aid than
other countries (think that was in the Guardian, I might be able
to track the source down) combined. And Europe would not be taking
refugees in, were they not coming across "its" borders. That's not
the case here; what is the case is the horrific xenophobia which
is placing the U.S. under lockdown. I see lots of calls for
humanitarian support and aid, very little for bringing refugees
over - I'm also not sure how that would be done, where they would
come from - and this in the case of brutal opposition to the 11
million (apparently) undocumented workers/migrants here from
central and south America - which is obviously far more than the
total migrants to date in Europe. I'd like to see ALL refugees
everywhere legalized; I can't do anything re: Europe, but we voice
our opposition here to the Republican party and its proto-
fascistic take on the world. That's pretty much all I can say
about it.
- Alan
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, Ana Vald?s wrote:
We see in the whole European world ppl gathering in supporting
the refugees
biking to Calais from London with tents food and medicines in
Stockholm
where I lived for almost my whole adult life thousands of
families are
offering to open their houses to refugees.
And I am talking about a country with a xenophobe party with
almost one
million voters.
Alan and the Americans in this list what are the US doing? I
don't mean the
government but the ppl where are the rallies to help the refugees
from the
Middle East, a region in turmoil since the wars started by the US
and their
geopolitical strategies?
The refugees can't be an European problem.
Ana
El sep 4, 2015 2:39 PM, "Alan Sondheim" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> escribi?:
Germany is set to take in 800,000 refugees by the end of the
year.
America, a country that won two World Wars, went to the moon,
and did "the other things," has taken in, well, far fewer.
Quoth the Guardian:
The US has admitted approximately 1,500 Syrian refugees
since the beginning of the civil war there in 2011, mostly
within the last fiscal year. Since April, the number of admitted
refugees has more than doubled from an estimate of 700.
...
Anna Greene, IRCs director of policy & advocacy for US
programs, said the 1,500 people the US has admitted thus far
doesnt even begin to scratch the surface of what is needed and
what could really make a difference.
Oxfam wants the US to up that number to 70,000 by the end of
2016.
Correction: This post and its headline originally said that
Germany planned to take in 800,000 Syrian refugees by the end of
the year. That is incorrect. It is 800,000 refugees total.
- Alan
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